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    "Senator Kerry- on your 2003 income tax return, there was a question [b]If you would like to pay give more than the required tax, check this box and enter the amount[/b], and you didn't volunteer to give more, even though you made million dollars in interest and capital gains this year.

    You and your wife paid less than 13% on your 500+million dollar estate and holdings. How do you justify demanding that people on Long Island making $200,000 a year pay 34%?"

    Take your "fair share" and stick it up your wife's *ss, John Kerry [b]YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE.[/b]

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    Yeah, because that would have balanced out the debate. Poor George Bush, getting skewered by the famous Schieffer softballs. And you Tom the Gayder Fan, what is it with your obsessive need to defend the upper class against creeping liberalism? You're not the guy I married.

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    Here's a few questions:

    "Senator Kerry, looking back over your 20 years in the Senate, can you dicuss the single piece of legislation that you authored of which you are most proud?"

    "Senator Kerry, regarding your global test response from the previous debate, can you explain why you voted against the 1991 Gulf War, when that war had seemingly passed the Global Test? Can you then explain why you voted for the current war in Iraq, when that war had not passed the global test? If I have mis-understood the meaning behind your "global test" line, would you please clarify it's meaning, in light of your seemingly contradictory votes for both wars?"

    "Senator Kerry, why haven't you released the records form the time of your service in the US Navy? The Swift Boat Veterans For Truth have simply asked you to do so. Can you give us a good reason as to why you prefer these records to be kept a secret, especially in light of the large amount of emphasis your time in the US Navy recieved during the Democratic National Convention?"

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by gobbles[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 07:46 AM
    [b] Yeah, because that would have balanced out the debate. Poor George Bush, getting skewered by the famous Schieffer softballs. And you Tom the Gayder Fan, what is it with your obsessive need to defend the upper class against creeping liberalism? You're not the guy I married. [/b][/quote]
    Whats with you taking the side of left wing screwballs who "wear berets" and "sip espresso"? Remember those quips, Charlie?

    "Personally I'm against abortion, but I don't think it's right for me to legislate my moral beliefs on those that are for it" -John Kerry

    "Personally I'm for gay marriage but I don't think it's right for our administration to legislate my moral beliefs on those that are against it" -Dick Cheney

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    "President Bush, last week you said 'I own a timber company? That's news to me...'. In fact according to your 2003 financial disclosure form you have part interest in "LSTF, LLC", a limited-liability company organized "for the purpose of the production of trees for commercial sales. Was this denial part of your affectation to make you appear less like an entitled elitist a**hole and more like a down to earth folksy kind of guy, or are you genuinely too stupid to know what the f**k you own and don't own?" You have two minutes."

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    Schieffer was too busy thinking about his next round of 18 with Dubya...ol' golf buddies.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by gobbles[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 11:50 AM
    [b] "President Bush, last week you said 'I own a timber company? That's news to me...'. In fact according to your 2003 financial disclosure form you have part interest in "LSTF, LLC", a limited-liability company organized "for the purpose of the production of trees for commercial sales. Was this denial part of your affectation to make you appear less like an entitled elitist a**hole and more like a down to earth folksy kind of guy, or are you genuinely too stupid to know what the f**k you own and don't own?" You have two minutes." [/b][/quote]
    This question is pretty absurd, considering his assets are held in a blind trust until he leaves office. By your logic, my 3-year old nephew is a part owner of Disney, since I gifted him some shares last Christmas.


    Since when is "that's news to me" a denial?


    Didn't he get an $84 dividend or something from this stock??

    Are you truly this ignorant?

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    "Mr. Resident, you have said that you don't govern by listening to focus groups. Earlier this year your administration ordered the invasion of Falujah in retaliation for the murders of contractors. Despite Major General Conway's misgivings, you insisted that this invasion take place. It did and after Arabs were outraged by the civilian casualties that they saw on tv every night you ordered the Marines to pull out of Falujah. The result was that ten Marines died, Falujah is no safer and we are left to ask why you did not listen to the protests of one of your own Generals and instead responded to the anger of Arabian mobs. Again two minutes Mr. Resident."

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    Kerry's responses to the Catholic/abortion questions have been bizarre. The Church postion is simple-abortion is wrong, period. Kerry's position seems to be (and by all means, if someone has a more accurate idear, as Kerry would say, please expound) he "respects" the Catholic position but cannot impose his view on others such that his Catholic beliefs have little or no place in his positions. Which is logic twisted beyond all recognition. If that's the way he feels or think-that his personal religion has no place in how he makes political decisions and votes-why bother being Catholic at all?

    Catholicism is a system of beliefs. But to Kerry and most liberals, how you feel and empty ritual matter more than what you think and do. By his logic, religion has no place at all in the public square. If he genuinley embraces Catholicism, it's his obligation to do everything in his power to stop or at least limit abortions.Which are the same reasons religious leaders rightly denounced slavery and the Nurmeberg laws. But Kerry's voted for in favor of every permutation imaginable-federal funding, , no parental notification, partial birth abortions. As to federal funding, why should the tax dollars of Catholics go to pay for soemthing so abhorent to them if this is such a "personal" thing(as liberals never tire of telling us)? If abortion isn't any more important than brushing your teeth, why shouldn't those who choose to undergo it pay for it out of their own pocket? As to parental notification, if your child undergoes any emeregency medical procedure, you're notified; you should be told if your daughter has undergone this for safety alone. If as in Kerry's example, the father raped the daughter, that's a crime, so that's total crap. And as to partial birth, how far into a pregnancy do you have to before we say "no". If a woman's life is threatened even in childbirth, a doctor would always save the mother.

    Many of us are fathers. If you've seen your childen born(which can be bloody and messy as hell), there is no way you don't know that life is a miracle and abortion is evil and wrong. Kerry pretends otherwise. But what can you expect from a guy who focus group tests his mother's dying declaration?

    Apparently, his Catholicism is okay only as long as if doesn't conflict with liberal special interest groups like the abortion lobby. In which case, why bother? Go to brunch instead of Mass and stop abusing logic and the English language. Your boyhood service as an altarboy is a nice story and ultimately pandering crap.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by gobbles[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 12:59 PM
    [b] "Mr. Resident, you have said that you don't govern by listening to focus groups. Earlier this year your administration ordered the invasion of Falujah in retaliation for the murders of contractors. Despite Major General Conway's misgivings, you insisted that this invasion take place. It did and after Arabs were outraged by the civilian casualties that they saw on tv every night you ordered the Marines to pull out of Falujah. The result was that ten Marines died, Falujah is no safer and we are left to ask why you did not listen to the protests of one of your own Generals and instead responded to the anger of Arabian mobs. Again two minutes Mr. Resident." [/b][/quote]
    The President's pulling out of Fallujah had nothing to do with Arabs being outraged. Maybe that's what the Kerry campaign would like (and seems to be succeeding at) to mislead Americans with, but it's simply not true.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Bugg[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 02:18 PM
    [b] Kerry's responses to the Catholic/abortion questions have been bizarre. The Church postion is simple-abortion is wrong, period. Kerry's position seems to be (and by all means, if someone has a more accurate idear, as Kerry would say, please expound) he "respects" the Catholic position but cannot impose his view on others such that his Catholic beliefs have little or no place in his positions. Which is logic twisted beyond all recognition. If that's the way he feels or think-that his personal religion has no place in how he makes political decisions and votes-why bother being Catholic at all?

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    Isn't that why Martin Luther started HIS religion... because he didn't agree with what the Catholic church says? Please... he uses even the Catholic Church to get more votes. Will he stop at ANYTHING?!?!?!

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Enrique Pallazzo[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 02:06 PM
    [b] Will he stop at ANYTHING?!?!?! [/b][/quote]
    Yes, on January 20, 2005 on his way to the Capitol Senator Kerry will stop @ the White House and give Bush a lift.

    It's the traditional way we tranfere power here in the United States.

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    And here we have two examples of Conservatism, one good, one assinine:

    The Assinine first:

    [quote][b]"Senator Kerry- on your 2003 income tax return, there was a question If you would like to pay give more than the required tax, check this box and enter the amount, and you didn't volunteer to give more, even though you made million dollars in interest and capital gains this year.

    You and your wife paid less than 13% on your 500+million dollar estate and holdings. How do you justify demanding that people on Long Island making $200,000 a year pay 34%?"[/b][/quote]

    And now the good examples od logical and intelligent Conservatism (I'd vote for this guy for office):

    [quote][b]"Senator Kerry, looking back over your 20 years in the Senate, can you dicuss the single piece of legislation that you authored of which you are most proud?"

    "Senator Kerry, regarding your global test response from the previous debate, can you explain why you voted against the 1991 Gulf War, when that war had seemingly passed the Global Test? Can you then explain why you voted for the current war in Iraq, when that war had not passed the global test? If I have mis-understood the meaning behind your "global test" line, would you please clarify it's meaning, in light of your seemingly contradictory votes for both wars?"

    "Senator Kerry, why haven't you released the records form the time of your service in the US Navy? The Swift Boat Veterans For Truth have simply asked you to do so. Can you give us a good reason as to why you prefer these records to be kept a secret, especially in light of the large amount of emphasis your time in the US Navy recieved during the Democratic National Convention?"[/b][/quote]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 02:15 PM
    [b] And here we have two examples of Conservatism, one good, one assinine:

    The Assinine first:

    [/b][/quote]
    Thanks for reminding me, Freddy. It's been a while since I cut and pasted an Ann Coulter article! :lol:

    Here 'tis! Enjoy:

    [b]In Desperate Move, Kerry Adopts Puppy[/b]
    Ann Coulter


    I guess with John Kerry's choice of John Edwards as his running mate, he really does want to stand up for all Americans, from those worth only $60 million to those worth in excess of $800 million.

    In one of the many stratagems Democrats have developed to avoid telling people what they believe, all Edwards wants to talk about is his cracker-barrel humble origins story. We're supposed to swoon over his "life story," as the flacks say, which apparently consists of the amazing fact that ... his father was a millworker!

    That's right up there with "Clinton's stepdad was a drunk" and "Ted Kennedy's dad was a womanizing bootlegger" on my inspirational life-stories meter. In fact, I'm immediately renouncing my university degrees and going to work for the post office just to give my future children a shot at having a "life story," should they decide to run for president someday.

    What is so amazing about Edwards' father being a millworker? That's at least an honorable occupation -- as opposed to being a trial lawyer. True, Edwards made more money than his father did. I assume strippers make more money than their alcoholic fathers who abandoned them did, too. This isn't a story of progress; it's a story of devolution.

    Despite the overwrought claims of Edwards' dazzling legal skills, winning jury verdicts in personal injury cases has nothing to do with legal talent and everything to do with getting the right cases -- unless "talent" is taken to mean "having absolutely no shame." Edwards specialized in babies with cerebral palsy whom he claimed would have been spared the affliction if only the doctors had immediately performed Caesarean sections.

    As a result of such lawsuits, there are now more than four times as many Caesarean sections as there were in 1970. But curiously, there has been no change in the rate of babies born with cerebral palsy. As The New York Times reported: "Studies indicate that in most cases, the disorder is caused by fetal brain injury long before labor begins." All those Caesareans have, however, increased the mother's risk of death, hemorrhage, infection, pulmonary embolism and Mendelson's syndrome.

    In addition, the "little guys" Edwards claims to represent are having a lot more trouble finding doctors to deliver their babies these days as obstetricians leave the practice rather than pay malpractice insurance in excess of $100,000 a year.

    In one of Edwards' silver-tongued arguments to the jury on behalf of a girl born with cerebral palsy, he claimed he was channeling the unborn baby girl, Jennifer Campbell, who was speaking to the jurors through him:

    "She said at 3, 'I'm fine.' She said at 4, 'I'm having a little trouble, but I'm doing OK.' Five, she said, 'I'm having problems.' At 5:30, she said, 'I need out.'"

    [i]She's saying, "My lawyer needs a new Jaguar ... "[/i] :P

    "She speaks to you through me and I have to tell you right now -- I didn't plan to talk about this -- right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you."

    [i]Well, tell her to pipe down, would you? I'm trying to hear the evidence in a malpractice lawsuit.[/i]

    To paraphrase Oscar Wilde on the death of Little Nell, one must have a heart of stone to read this without laughing. What is this guy, a tent-show preacher? An off-the-strip Las Vegas lounge psychic couldn't get away with this routine.

    Is Edwards able to channel any children right before an abortionist's fork is plunged into their tiny skulls? Why can't he hear those babies saying, "Let me live! Stop spraying this saline solution all over me!" Edwards must experience interference in channeling the voices of babies about to be aborted. Their liberal mothers' hands seem to muffle those voices.

    And may we ask what the pre-born Jennifer Campbell thinks about war with Iraq? North Korea? Marginal tax rates? If Miss Cleo here is going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, I think the voters are entitled to know that.

    While making himself fabulously rich by taking a one-third cut of his multimillion-dollar verdicts coaxed out of juries with junk science and maudlin performances, Edwards has the audacity to claim, "I was more than just their lawyer; I cared about them. Their cause was my cause."

    If he cared so deeply, how about keeping just 10 percent of the multimillion-dollar jury awards, rather than a third? In fact, as long as these Democrats are so eager to raise the taxes of "the rich," how about a 90 percent tax on contingency fees?

    For someone who didn't care about the money, it's interesting that Edwards avoided cases in which the baby died during delivery. Evidently, jury awards average only about $500,000 when the babies die, and there is no disabled child to parade before the jury.

    Edwards was one of the leading opponents of a bill in the North Carolina Legislature that would have established a fund for all babies born with cerebral palsy. So instead of all disabled babies in North Carolina being compensated equitably, only a few will win the jury lottery -- one-third of which will go to trial lawyers like Edwards, who insists he doesn't care about the money.

    Despite the now-disproved junk science theory about C-sections preventing cerebral palsy that Edwards peddled in the channeling case, the jury awarded Edwards' client a record-breaking $6.5 million. This is the essence of the modern Democratic Party, polished to perfection by Bill Clinton: They are willing to insult the intelligence of 49 percent of the people if they think they can fool 51 percent of the people.

    So while Michael Moore, Al Franken, George Soros, Crazy Al Gore and the rest of the characters from the climactic devil-worshipping scene in "Rosemary's Baby" provide the muscle for the Kerry campaign, Kerry picks a pretty-boy milquetoast as his running mate, narrowly edging out a puppy for the spot. Just don't ask the Democrats what they believe. Edwards' father was a millworker, and that's all you need to know.

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    Sen. Kerry, would you please tell us why after three minor war injuries you chose to get out of the battlefield when many of our heroic men stayed and fought even though they had sustained more serious injuries?

    Sen. Kerry, in light of your critique of Pres. Bush's military strategy, why do you think, as a Military Times survey shows, such a large majority of our military support Pres. Bush?

    Sen. Kerry could you explain your "plan" for creating 10 million jobs in four years if you're elected president? And how do you plan to increase wages in America and still keep our products affordable on the world market?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@Oct 15 2004, 02:15 PM
    [b] And here we have two examples of Conservatism, one good, one assinine:

    The Assinine first:

    [quote][b]"Senator Kerry- on your 2003 income tax return, there was a question If you would like to pay give more than the required tax, check this box and enter the amount, and you didn't volunteer to give more, even though you made million dollars in interest and capital gains this year.

    You and your wife paid less than 13% on your 500+million dollar estate and holdings. How do you justify demanding that people on Long Island making $200,000 a year pay 34%?"[/b][/quote]

    And now the good examples od logical and intelligent Conservatism (I'd vote for this guy for office):

    [quote][b]"Senator Kerry, looking back over your 20 years in the Senate, can you dicuss the single piece of legislation that you authored of which you are most proud?"

    "Senator Kerry, regarding your global test response from the previous debate, can you explain why you voted against the 1991 Gulf War, when that war had seemingly passed the Global Test? Can you then explain why you voted for the current war in Iraq, when that war had not passed the global test? If I have mis-understood the meaning behind your "global test" line, would you please clarify it's meaning, in light of your seemingly contradictory votes for both wars?"

    "Senator Kerry, why haven't you released the records form the time of your service in the US Navy? The Swift Boat Veterans For Truth have simply asked you to do so. Can you give us a good reason as to why you prefer these records to be kept a secret, especially in light of the large amount of emphasis your time in the US Navy recieved during the Democratic National Convention?"[/b][/quote] [/b][/quote]
    Enlighten us, why is the first one asinine? (only one "s" in asinine, btw)

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    and Edwards loped hole $600,000 he should have paid in taxes on his 23 million. Yet they want people who make $200,000 to pay higher taxes. I can just see it under Kerry's tax plain, a person making $190,000 a year turning down a better job for $205,000 because they would make less money. I "m making less than $20,000 a year but I know its the rich people that employ you, unless you work for big government.

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