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    9/11 Familes: An Open Letter to the American People


    Three years ago, on the day that began as a beautiful September morning, 19 men and their sponsors carried out a brutal and devastating attack on our country, leaving 3,000 innocent men, women and children dead, including our loved ones. In those first agonizing hours, and for weeks and months afterward as we searched for word of their fate, we were aware that the shock and horror of that day was not ours alone. With a gratitude we could not yet express, we felt the strong and steady embrace of our fellow Americans. The words, ?Never forget,? defiantly written in dust or humbly penned on makeshift memorials, were also permanently etched in our hearts. We will never forget your strength, your courage and your endless generosity.

    We speak to you now in the same spirit that you spoke to us then, as Americans, united on behalf of our country. Like many of you, we feel that our nation is poised at a critical moment in history. Like our parents and grandparents before us, we know that the choices we make today will affect our children tomorrow. But we face a new challenge, a new kind of war and an enemy who is different from the enemies faced by earlier generations. This is not an adversary who can be reasoned with or appeased, this is an adversary who has repeatedly demonstrated that its means and ends are one and the same: the wanton slaughter of innocents.

    After the attack, President Bush articulated the primary lesson of September 11, that simply reacting to danger after lives are lost is a weak and unacceptable national defense. He believes that taking the fight to the enemy is the best way to ensure that the enemy will not bring death to our doorstep here at home.

    We agree.

    Under the President?s strong leadership in the war on terror and through the heroic efforts of our military forces, we are a safer country today. Two-thirds of al Qaeda leadership is dead, incarcerated, or on the run, its financing disrupted. The Taliban has been removed from power and training camps in Afghanistan and Iraq have been eliminated. On the domestic front, our dedicated law enforcement agencies are finally able to fight terror the same way they go after drug cartels; terrorists and terrorist cells have been thwarted in upstate New York, New Jersey, Oregon, Illinois and Florida.

    The 9/11 Commission has provided this nation with a solid blueprint for going forward in the war on terror. It described the threat that killed our loved ones as a ?gathering storm? which went unrecognized and unchecked for too many years and characterized the inability to predict the attack itself as a ?failure of imagination.? Looking forward, the Commission offered this pointed warning, ?Once the danger has fully materialized, evident to all, mobilizing action is easier--but it then may be too late.?

    Through the prism of 9/11 and presaging the Commission?s conclusion, President Bush looked at Iraq and Saddam Hussein?s history, his willingness to use chemical weapons in the mass murder of his own citizens, his notorious attempts to acquire nuclear weapons, his record of giving financial aid and sanctuary to global terrorists--including members of al Qaeda--and his repeated refusal to cooperate with U.N. inspectors. He determined that this repressive regime was an intolerable danger to our country. Rather than waiting until it was too late to prevent a fully materialized threat, the President acted. We believe history will support the President?s decision.

    We speak to you from the heart, as citizens from all across the country and every political stripe. We are Republicans and Democrats, ?liberals? and ?conservatives,? young and old. We are mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters and friends. We speak out from a profound sense of obligation to those we have lost and to the country that we love. Guided by core principles, President Bush has steadfastly told us who he is, what he believes and what he will fight for. He is a caring and decisive leader who is not afraid to make hard choices to keep this nation safe, by keeping it strong. He has sent a clear message to America?s friends and foes that he will not waver in his resolve as the winds of political fortune change. He will not revert to the failed policies of the past which only served to whet the appetite of those who would destroy us. He will stand firm against our adversaries.

    As Americans who have keenly felt the scourge of terrorism, we are inspired and energized to follow the President?s lead, to rise to the occasion and get the job done. We are deeply grateful to President Bush, who rallied this nation on that dark September day, who has earned our respect and confidence, and whose leadership we trust to steer this country on the right path.

    Three years ago, George W. Bush stood with us and vowed that he would ?Never forget.?

    We stand with him now.


    CPT John Vigiano, FDNY (ret.)
    father of FF John T Vigiano,
    Ladder 132/FDNY, WTC attack &
    DET Joseph V. Vigiano ESU 7,
    NYPD, WTC attack

    Ken and Laura Olson
    Son and Daughter in Law of
    Barbara Olson, AA 77, Pentagon attack, Ashburn, Virginia

    Deena B. Burnett
    Wife of Tom Burnett, UA flight 93,
    Shanksville rebellion
    Little Rock, AR

    Hamilton Peterson & Julia Croft
    Son & daughter-in-law
    Douglas & Jean Hamilton
    UA 93, Shanksville rebellion

    Nancy & Charles Burcham
    Sister of Stephen V. Long
    Maj, Army, Pentagon attack
    Danville, IN

    Sue and Jim Weaver
    Mother of Stephen Long
    Maj, Army, Pentagon attack
    Hazelwood, IN

    Lynn Faulkner and
    Loren and Ashley Faulkner
    husband and daughters of
    Wendy Ruth Faulkner
    VP, AON Corporation
    104th Floor, 2 WTC

    Debra Burlingame & Bob Fraina
    Sister of Charles Burlingame
    Capt, AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Pelham Manor, NY

    Mark & Anine Burlingame
    Brother of Charles Burlingame
    Capt, AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Philadelphia, PA

    Jackie & Wayne Burlingame
    Aunt/uncle of Charles Burlingame
    Capt, AA 77, Pentagon attack

    Robert & Suzanne Peraza
    Parents of Robert David Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack
    Mason, Ohio

    Ada Garland
    Godmother to Robert David Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Rob and Joan Burton
    brother-in-law & sister to
    Robert D. Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, 105th FL,

    Maria Elenbaas
    Cousin to
    Robert David Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTCWTC 1

    Bill and Linda Comber
    Uncle and Aunt of
    Robert David Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, 105th FL, WTC 1

    Cornelius J. Comber
    Grandfather of Robert Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, 105th FL, WTC 1

    Neil Peraza, brother of
    Robert David Peraza
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC 1

    Ernest and Mary Ann Strada
    Parents of Thomas S. Strada
    Canter Fitzgerald, WTC attack
    Westbury, NY

    Susan Cronin
    Sister of Thomas S. Strada
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack
    Westbury, NY

    Michael Strada
    Brother of Thomas S. Strada
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Joseph Strada
    Brother of Thomas S. Strada
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Dolores and Peter Owens, Sr.
    Parents of Peter Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack
    East Williston, NY

    John Owens
    Brother of Peter Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack
    Mineola, NY

    Pam & Tom Gould
    Daughter of Patrick Driscoll
    UA 93, Shanksville rebellion
    Allendale, NJ

    Nora, Steve & Christine Coco
    sister, brother-in-law, & niece of LT Joseph G. Leavey
    Ladder 15, FDNY, WTC

    Patty & Tim Sumner
    sister & brother-in-law of
    LT Joseph G. Leavey
    Ladder 15, FDNY, WTC

    Barry K. Gore
    Brother of Jennifer Lewis
    Brother-in-law of Ken Lewis
    crew members, AA Flight 77 Pentagon attack

    Karen Coakley Struzik
    & Husband Gary Struzik
    Cousin of Kenny and Jennifer Lewis
    Crew, AA 77, Pentagon Attack
    Potomac Falls, VA

    Thomas A. Crawford, III
    Orange County, CA
    Cousin of Michael A. Uliano,
    WTC attack

    Bernice Dowdy Coakley
    Aunt of Kenny Lewis
    and his wife Jennifer
    crew members, AA Flight 77
    Pentagon attack

    Lorraine & Andrew Klein
    Denver, Colorado
    Cousin to Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Loretta O'Brien
    Cousin of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Margret O'Brien
    Cousin of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Chris Whitford
    Brother of Firefighter Mark Whitford
    Engine 23, FDNY, WTC

    Dominic J. Puopolo, Jr.
    Son of Sonia Morales Puopolo
    Passenger AA 11, WTC 1
    Miami Beach, FL

    Wendy D. Burlingame
    Daughter of Capt Charles Burlingame
    Flight 77 Pentagon attack

    Dr. Craig W. Sincock
    Husband of Cheryle D. Sincock
    Dept of Army civilian
    Pentagon attack

    Claire Cunningham
    Aunt of Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Daniel McDonnell
    Uncle of Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack.

    Thomas Owens
    Brother of Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack.

    Edward R. Cunningham
    Cousin of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Claire Y. Cunningham
    Aunt of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Greg and Moira Pellegrino
    Cousin of Kenny and Jennifer Lewis
    crew, AA flight 77, Pentagon attack

    Mary & Richard Busche
    Cousin of Peter Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Lois Olmstead
    Cousin of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    David B. Faulk
    Brother-in-law of
    Major Steve Long, Army
    Pentagon attack

    Brian Grauer
    Brother-in-law of Michael Horn
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Dominic & Patricia Schiavo
    father-in-law and mother-in-law of
    Jack L. D'Ambrosi
    Cantor Fitzgerald
    103 floor, WTC attack

    Lauryn Haffner
    Sister-in-law of Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Agnes Maida, Aunt of
    Howard G. Gelling
    Sandler O'Neill
    WTC, South Twr, 104th FL

    Gail Skennion
    extended family of
    LT Joseph G. Leavey,
    Ladder 15, FDNY

    Jason Fox
    Friend of Charles Droz and
    William Caswell, AA Flight 77

    Brad & Diane Senter
    President of the USS Saratoga
    Association and former shipmate of
    Charles "Chic" Burlingame

    COL John F. McCall USAF
    Friend of Charles "Chic" Burlingame
    Capt. AA flt 77

    Katherine Harrs
    Family friend of Thomas S. Strada
    Canter Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Mike Cohen
    Naval Academy classmate of
    Chic Burlingame, Capt. AA flt 77

    Joe & Joan Olexa
    Friends of Burlingame
    family for 40+ years and
    Charles Burlingame, Capt. AA flt 77

    Mike & Barb Miller
    Friends of
    Vic Saracini, Capt, UA flt 175
    and Chic Burlingame, Capt. AA flt 77

    Terry Arford
    Friend of Chick Burlingame,
    Captain of AA flt 77, and fellow member of the Anaheim Band

    Marshall & Pamela Stomel
    Friends of family of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Blanton & Meissa Gentry
    Friends of family of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack

    John and Julia Chan
    Peoria, IL, parents of
    Charles Lawrence "Chip" Chan
    Cantor Fitzgerald, 105th Fl, 1 WTC

    William Lang II
    Father of Roseanne Lang
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC
    and grandfather of
    Brendan Lang, WTC

    William Lang III
    Father of Brendan Lang
    WTC North Tower and
    brother of Roseanne Lang
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Linda & Tom Wilkonski
    Cousin of Roseanne Lang, WTC
    and Brenden Lang, WTC

    Edward W. McGrain
    Uncle to the wife of Paul Tegtmeier
    Engine 4, FDNY, WTC

    John Antretter
    Friend/Brother of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Judy and Ron Knight
    Sister & brother-in-law
    of Frank Wisniewski, VP, Cantor Fitzgerald, 104th Floor, WTC

    Michael Nott
    Friend of Charles Burlingame
    Capt, AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Orlando, FL

    Mike & Maria Ragonese
    Brother & sister-in-law of
    Laura Marie Ragonese-Snik
    AON Consultant, 101 Floor
    South Tower, WTC


    Loisanne, Jason, and
    Jeannette Diehl, wife and children of
    Michael D. Diehl
    VP, Fiduciary Trust CO.
    International, 2 WTC

    Nancy K. Nee
    Grieving sister of George C. Cain
    FDNY, Ladder 7,
    Marriott Hotel, WTC

    Rosemary Cain
    Mother of FF George C. Cain
    FDNY, Ladder 7,
    Marriott Hotel, WTC

    Leslie Dimmling,
    Wife of William Dimmling,
    Senior VP, Marsh McLennan
    North Tower, WTC

    Bill McGough
    Cousin to Kaleen Pezzuti and
    Todd Pelino, Cantor Fitzgerald,
    1 WTC, 101st floor

    Walter Hamilton
    Son of Felicia Hamilton
    Fiduciary Trust, South Tower, WTC

    Frank Mistretta, NYPD (retired)
    Friend and former coworker of
    SGT Timothy Roy, NYPD, WTC

    Jean Waletich
    Cousin of Patrick S. Dunn
    Commander, USN, Pentagon

    Carey Pierce
    Brother of Dennis J. Pierce
    Senior Auditor, NYS Dept of Taxation
    South Tower, 86th Floor

    Julius Zodda
    Cousin of William Dimmling,
    Senior VP, Marsh McLennan
    North Tower, WTC

    Michael Field
    Sigma Chi fraternity brother,
    University of Wisconsin, of
    Kevin Francis Cleary
    Broker, Euro Brokers Inc., WTC

    Jeffrey Namm
    Godfather of James Andrew Gadiel
    Cantor Fitzgerald
    103d Floor, North Tower, WTC

    Maureen Morrison
    Cousin To Ronald J. Hemenway
    ET1, Navy, Pentagon attack

    Patricia & Raymond Sellek
    Sister & Brother-in-law of
    Wilson & Darlene Flagg
    AA 77, Pentagon Attack

    Paul and Nassima Wachtler
    parents of
    Gregory Kamal Bruno Wachtler
    Fred Alger Management
    North Tower, 93rd fl

    Barbara E. Lang, friend of
    Robert C. Miller, Aon Corp., WTC
    and SGT Thomas E. Jurgens,
    NY State Court Officer, WTC

    Ken Haskell,
    Brother of
    FF Tim Haskell, Squad 18 and
    Battalion Chief Tom Haskell
    FDNY, WTC

    Brian Kevin Smith
    Son of murdered
    Firefighter Kevin J. Smith
    FDNY, Haz-Mat Company 1
    North Tower, WTC Arlene Howard
    Mother of Port Authority of NY & NJ
    Police Officer George Gerard Howard
    JFK ESU unit 8, WTC Tower 1

    Christopher Howard
    Son of Port Authority Police Officer
    George Gerard Howard
    JFK ESU truck 8, WTC Tower 1

    Jimmy Boyle
    Father of Michael Boyle
    FDNY Engine 33, WTC attack
    Westbury, NY

    Marc & Michelle Flagg
    Son of Wilson & Darlene Flagg
    AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Florida

    Michael and Mary Flagg
    Son of Wilson & Darlene Flagg
    AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Winchester, VA

    Bob & Brit Gore
    Parents and in-laws of
    Jennifer & Kenneth Lewis
    Crew, AA 77, Pentagon attack

    Robert & Dawn Hemenway
    Brother of Ronald J. Hemenway
    ET1 Navy, Pentagon attack

    Capt. Tom Lombardo
    Friend of Charles Burlingame
    Capt, AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Gainesville, VA

    Bart & Susan Whitman
    Friend of Charles Burlingame
    Pilot, AA flt. 77, Pentagon attack
    Alexandria, VA

    Kathryn Griffin
    Friend of Charles F. Burlingame
    Capt, AA 77, Pentagon attack
    Washington, D.C.

    Charles & Nancy Burcham Faulk
    Brother in-law & Sister of
    Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack
    Danville, IN

    Sue & James Weaver
    Mother & Stepfather of
    Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon attack
    Hazelwood, IN

    George Long
    Father of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon attack
    Martinsville, IN

    Sharon Miles
    Aunt of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack
    Montrose, CO

    Connie Mastin
    Aunt of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon attack
    Hayward, WI

    Tina Long
    Wife of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack
    Augusta, GA

    Phil & Lynn Danforth
    Uncle/Aunt of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon attack
    Overland Park, KS

    Jennifer Iannotti
    Sister of Thomas S. Strada
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Robert & Shirley Hemenway
    Parents of Ronald J. Hemenway,
    ET1, Navy, Pentagon attack
    Shawnee, KS

    Betsy A. Gore
    Sister-in-law of Jennifer and Ken Lewis
    crew members, AA Flight 77
    Pentagon attack

    Linda Pohlmann
    Wife of William H. Pohlmann
    NYS Taxation Dept
    WTC attack

    Dr & Mrs Kenneth Paul Ambrose
    Parents of Paul Wesley Ambrose, M.D.,
    MPH, Sr. Clinical Advisor
    to Surgeon General Satcher
    AA Flight 77 Pentagon

    Denis and Suzana Coakley
    Cousin and cousin-in-law of
    Ken and Jennifer Lewis,
    AA crew members, Pentagon

    Ray and Kathy Campbell
    Yankton South Dakota
    Cousin (Ray) to Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Elizabeth Stanton
    Cousin of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Susan Weaver
    Hazelwood, IN
    Step-Sister of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon

    Bernard & Patricia Welsh
    Cousin of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Jana Y. Lovick
    Family friend of
    Major Stephen V. Long
    Army, Pentagon Attack

    Catherine T. Puwalski
    Friend of Strada Family
    in Memory of Thomas S. Strada
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack
    Westbury, NY

    Noreen and Jim Considine
    Aunt and Uncle of Peter J. Owens Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Diane Edwards
    her husband is the cousin of
    Dennis M. Edwards
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Nancy and Tom Mulligan
    Parents of Peter James Mulligan
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Terence & Joan Owens
    Brother of Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack.

    Kevin & Lorraine Owens
    Brother of Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack.

    Elizabeth Stanton
    Cousin of Peter J. Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Thomas Stanton
    Cousin of Peter J. Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Elizabeth Stanton
    Cousin of Peter J. Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    David Coakley
    Cousin of Kenny Lewis
    and his wife Jennifer
    crew, AA Flight 77, Pentagon attack

    Bernard and Patricia Welsh
    Cousin of Peter Owens Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Kathleen Leone
    Cousin of Peter Owens Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Kevin J. Welsh
    Cousin of Peter Owens Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Joanne McMahon
    Cousin of Peter J. Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Kate Owens
    Sister-in-law of
    Peter J. Owens, Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Juan A. Cruz-Santiago
    Civilian Accountant
    US Army, Pentagon Survivor

    Barbara and Sean Bailey
    Aunt and Uncle of Brett Bailey,
    who along with their niece's
    husband, Robert Coll,
    died in the North Tower

    Jordan Cayne
    Father of Jason David Cayne
    VP, Cantor Fitzgerald
    104 floor, WTC attack

    Robert Debrot
    Cousin to Howard Gelling Jr.
    WTC attack

    Jack Debrot
    Cousin of Howard Gelling
    WTC attack

    Lynne (last name withheld
    at submitter's request)
    Cousin of Ricardo Quinn
    FDNY Paramedic, WTC attack

    Ed Lamadore, friend
    of FDNY firefighters
    Ken Hatten, Ed Sweeney,
    Bill Burke, & Joe Spor
    who each lost sons in
    the WTC attack

    Jean Pangarliotas
    Friend of family of Peter Owen
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    Jennifer Taddeo
    Friend of family of Peter Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Cindy Justice
    Friend of family of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack

    Becky Marsh
    Friend of family of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack

    Sherry M. Allen
    Friend of family of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack

    Bill Brown (retired
    American Airlines pilot)
    Friends of crews members
    of both America Airlines
    flights 11 and 77

    C. R. (Bob) Paty
    Friend of Captain Chic Burlingame
    AA Flight 77

    Nancy Thompson
    Friend of family of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack

    Louise Hoffman
    Friend of family of Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack

    Michelle, Chris & Lisa Hornbaker
    Sister, Nephew, & Niece of
    Stephen V. Long
    Major, Army, Pentagon Attack
    Martinsville, Indiana

    Richard P. Lang
    Brother of Roseanne Lang
    Cantor Fitzergald, WTC
    Uncle of Brenden Lang, WTC

    Timothy J Lang
    Brother of Rosanne P. Lang, WTC,
    and Uncle of Brendan Lang
    Structuretone Inc., WTC

    Andrew Caspersen
    Boyfriend of Catherine F. MacRae
    Fred Alger Management
    93rd Floor, 1 WTC

    Robert Heller
    Brother of H. Joseph Heller
    Carr Futures, 1 WTC

    Colleen and Rob Rastovich
    Sister and Brother-in-law
    of H. Joseph Heller
    Carr Futures, 1 WTC

    Robert & Peggy Scandole
    Parents of Robert Scandole
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC Attack

    NYPD Detective
    Christopher Scandole
    Brother of Robert Scandole
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC

    Thomasine Aberle
    Aunt of Robert Scandole
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC Attack

    Vincent Scandole
    Uncle of Robert Scandole
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC Attack


    Maria Cella
    Niece of H. Joseph Heller
    Carr Futures, 1 WTC

    Roberta Heller
    Mother of H.Joseph Heller
    Carr Futures, 1 WTC

    Patrick Michael Heller
    and his wife, Corie,
    Cousin to H. Joseph Heller
    Carr Futures, 1 WTC

    Police Officer David Lim
    Port Authority Police
    K-9 Unit, Handler & friend
    of K-9 Sirius #17
    Killed in 2 WTC (B-1 level)

    Anthony & Mary Ellen DiBona
    Friends of Captain
    Charles "Chic" Burlingame
    American Airlines Flight 77

    Stephanie L. Capps
    Niece of Linda L. New
    Girlfriend of FF Steven Coakley,
    Firehouse 217, 1 WTC

    David Huczko
    Brother of Port Authority Police Office
    Stephen Huczko, North Tower, WTC
    and brother of Richard Huczko,
    GE contractor, who was
    killed in Iraq 3/29/2004

    Christopher F. O'Conor
    Cousin of Patrick S. Dunn
    Commander, USN, Pentagon

    Patricia A. O'Conor
    Aunt of Patrick S. Dunn
    CDR, USN, Pentagon

    Stephen F. O'Conor
    Cousin of Patrick S. Dunn
    Commander, USN, Pentagon

    Patricia D. and Richard J. Clark
    Parents of Thomas "Tommy" R. Clark
    VP, Sandler O'Neill
    104th Fl, South Tower, WTC

    Maureen and John Harrigan
    Cousin (Maureen) of
    Peter J. Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC attack

    James and Marie McMahon
    Cousins of Peter J. Owens Jr.
    Cantor Fitzgerald - North Tower WTC

    J.T. McMahon
    Cousin of Peter J. Owens
    Cantor Fitzgerald - WTC Attack

    Bert Wooley
    Brother of CPT David T. Wooley
    FDNY, Ladder 4 Engine 54,
    South Tower, WTC

    Mary Otto
    Mother of CPT David T. Wooley
    FDNY, Ladder 4 Engine 54,
    South Tower, WTC

    Patricia Brennan
    Aunt of FF Michael Brennan
    FDNY, Ladder 4
    Marriott Hotel, WTC

    Charles Barberi, Sgt, NYPD
    Cousin to Edward Strauss
    Port Authority of NY & NJ
    South Tower, WTC

    Jim & Joan Sullivan
    Parents of
    Lt. Christopher P. Sullivan
    FDNY, Ladder 111
    WTC, South Tower

    Heidi Hochwarth
    Sister-in-law of
    Firefighter Kenneth Marino
    FDNY, Rescue 1, WTC

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    I get the emotional value such a piece may carry, but you have to know in reality it means very little......or maybe you don't.

    For example, if my mother is killed by a rapist, does my opinion on which candidate would be better against domestic crime suddenly carry more weight or authority?

    No, of course it doesn't. The same way the relatives of the 9/11 attacks do not suddenly have some implied or percieved authority or superior knowledge of the causes, tactics and best ways to fight terrorism or to excel in internation politics.

    Let me ask you this: If the 9/11 survivors had come out and supported Kerry, would have posted this piece?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 11:07 AM
    [b] Let me ask you this: If the 9/11 survivors had come out and supported Kerry, would have posted this piece? [/b][/quote]
    Let me tell you this: If they had come out and supported Kerry, and someone posted it, you'd be singing a completely different tune in your reply.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 12:07 PM
    [b]

    Let me ask you this: If the 9/11 survivors had come out and supported Kerry, would have posted this piece? [/b][/quote]
    I support George Bush.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by shakin318+Oct 28 2004, 12:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (shakin318 @ Oct 28 2004, 12:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Warfish[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 11:07 AM
    [b] Let me ask you this: If the 9/11 survivors had come out and supported Kerry, would have posted this piece? [/b][/quote]
    Let me tell you this: If they had come out and supported Kerry, and someone posted it, you&#39;d be singing a completely different tune in your reply. [/b][/quote]
    Actually, no, I wouldn&#39;t. :rolleyes: The 9/11 Familes would be no more qualified to decide who the better anti-terror candidate is if they favored Kerry, then they are now when they favor Bush. But thanks for telling me what I think, since we all know YOU know what I am thinking better than I do, right Shakin. :rolleyes:

    By the way, it says volumes that you cannot debate the point I made, so instead resort to trying to attack which party you THINK I support.

    Just for the record Shakes, I am voting Libertarian in 2004, not Democrat. But if I had to choose Republican or Democrat, I would have likely voted for Bush. However, I don&#39;t let that get in the way of my objectivity over this kind of stuff.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 12:50 PM
    [b] The 9/11 Familes would be no more qualified to decide who the better anti-terror candidate is if they favored Kerry, then they are now when they favor Bush. [/b][/quote]
    The families of 9/11 are just as qualified to decide the better candidate as any newspaper, so called journalist, tv pundit, you or myself.

    This is nothing more than an endorsement by people that feel as though they have a vested interest in this election and I agree with them.

    You don&#39;t need to belittle their endorsement by disqualifiying them. They are as qualified as ANYBODY.

    Just my two-cents.

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    my two cents

    9-11 was 19 suicidal *******s getting balls out uncanny lucky on one day...

    It was not Pearl Harbor and SOME (NOT ALL) of the families of those involved are too close to the horror to make objective judgements about George Bush and the job he&#39;s done making us as a nation safer.

    ps- alot of cousins on that list... what are we using the Italian definition of family?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish+Oct 28 2004, 12:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Warfish @ Oct 28 2004, 12:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by shakin318@Oct 28 2004, 12:02 PM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin-Warfish[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 11:07 AM
    [b] Let me ask you this: If the 9/11 survivors had come out and supported Kerry, would have posted this piece? [/b][/quote]
    Let me tell you this: If they had come out and supported Kerry, and someone posted it, you&#39;d be singing a completely different tune in your reply. [/b][/quote]
    Actually, no, I wouldn&#39;t. :rolleyes: The 9/11 Familes would be no more qualified to decide who the better anti-terror candidate is if they favored Kerry, then they are now when they favor Bush. But thanks for telling me what I think, since we all know YOU know what I am thinking better than I do, right Shakin. :rolleyes:

    By the way, it says volumes that you cannot debate the point I made, so instead resort to trying to attack which party you THINK I support.

    Just for the record Shakes, I am voting Libertarian in 2004, not Democrat. But if I had to choose Republican or Democrat, I would have likely voted for Bush. However, I don&#39;t let that get in the way of my objectivity over this kind of stuff. [/b][/quote]
    Relax fish, everything&#39;s not an attack. I just call em as I see em.

    I recall you taking much more of a "pro" stance when the discussion was about brain-dead rock stars touring for Kerry. Nothing even remotely positive for Bush ever passes your test for some reason....

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by shakin318[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 12:58 PM
    [b] Relax fish, everything&#39;s not an attack. I just call em as I see em.

    I recall you taking much more of a "pro" stance when the discussion was about brain-dead rock stars touring for Kerry. Nothing even remotely positive for Bush ever passes your test for some reason.... [/b][/quote]
    Well, 95% of what is posted here is Pro-Bush Conservative. Hence, 95% of the things I will criticise when inaccurate or clearly "biased instead of logical" will be of a Conservative position.

    I&#39;m honest about my feelings towards ol&#39; GW. I think he&#39;s done a piss poor job all around, incredably poor tactics in war, too liberal at home and in spending, and too weak on immigration. That makes it VERY hard to come screaming to his defense, especially since the population of Conservatives here hardly need ME to point out Liberal fallacies.

    But that does not mean I think Kerry will do a better job. Between the two, I think GW is likely the "Lesser of two evils" choice, but I prefer neither. In my view the two major parties are corrupt vehicles for personal power, with little true interest in what is best for America, only what is best for their own parties and the power they can accumulate.

    I vote Libertarian because they are closest to my position on many issues. They suck on immigration, granted, but of all the non-major parties, they come closest to my own political views on the most possible issues.

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    Boyfriend? Cousin? Friend? Friend of family?

    what&#39;s next? Charles Chips deliveryman? Postal Worker? cmon.

    im sorry but if it&#39;s not

    FATHER/MOTHER
    SON/DAUGHTER
    BROTHER/SISTER
    HUSBAND/WIFE

    then that person is not a 9-11 "FAMILY"

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 02:09 PM
    [b] Boyfriend? Cousin? Friend? Friend of family?

    what&#39;s next? Charles Chips deliveryman? Postal Worker? cmon.

    im sorry but if it&#39;s not

    FATHER/MOTHER
    SON/DAUGHTER
    BROTHER/SISTER
    HUSBAND/WIFE

    then that person is not a 9-11 "FAMILY" [/b][/quote]
    wake up Bit....I wasn&#39;t going to respond after reading your first post, but if you want to beat this stupidity to death I will, you have absolutely NO right to say what you are saying, it&#39;s a lousy thing to say, let alone think. You have more regard for the terrorists than you do for the "families" and you know what, I wish I could throw my name on that list.

    sometimes the things you write piss the crap out of me

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by jetswin+Oct 28 2004, 01:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (jetswin @ Oct 28 2004, 01:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 02:09 PM
    [b] Boyfriend? Cousin? Friend? Friend of family?

    what&#39;s next? Charles Chips deliveryman? Postal Worker? cmon.

    im sorry but if it&#39;s not

    FATHER/MOTHER
    SON/DAUGHTER
    BROTHER/SISTER
    HUSBAND/WIFE

    then that person is not a 9-11 "FAMILY" [/b][/quote]
    wake up Bit....I wasn&#39;t going to respond after reading your first post, but if you want to beat this stupidity to death I will, you have absolutely NO right to say what you are saying, it&#39;s a lousy thing to say, let alone think. You have more regard for the terrorists than you do for the "families" and you know what, I wish I could throw my name on that list.

    sometimes the things you write piss the crap out of me [/b][/quote]
    the post says 9-11 families.

    where i come from Family doesn&#39;t mean FRIEND or FRIEND of Family it means BLOOD or legal alliance (remember the sanctity of MARRIAGE my Bush loving friend)

    some guy bangs some broad the night before 9-11, she says she&#39;s a "girlfriend" - in the haze and the flames of the day who is to say she&#39;s not?


    this letter is almost as blatant as assembling a coalition of Poland, UK, Australia and 30 other tiny-ass countries and calling it a mighty alliance.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti+Oct 28 2004, 02:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (bitonti &#064; Oct 28 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by jetswin@Oct 28 2004, 01:13 PM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin-bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 02:09 PM
    [b] Boyfriend? Cousin? Friend? Friend of family?

    what&#39;s next? Charles Chips deliveryman? Postal Worker? cmon.

    im sorry but if it&#39;s not

    FATHER/MOTHER
    SON/DAUGHTER
    BROTHER/SISTER
    HUSBAND/WIFE

    then that person is not a 9-11 "FAMILY" [/b][/quote]
    wake up Bit....I wasn&#39;t going to respond after reading your first post, but if you want to beat this stupidity to death I will, you have absolutely NO right to say what you are saying, it&#39;s a lousy thing to say, let alone think. You have more regard for the terrorists than you do for the "families" and you know what, I wish I could throw my name on that list.

    sometimes the things you write piss the crap out of me [/b][/quote]
    the post says 9-11 families.

    where i come from Family doesn&#39;t mean FRIEND or FRIEND of Family it means BLOOD or legal alliance (remember the sanctity of MARRIAGE my Bush loving friend)

    some guy bangs some broad the night before 9-11, she says she&#39;s a "girlfriend" - in the haze and the flames of the day who is to say she&#39;s not?


    this letter is almost as blatant as assembling a coalition of Poland, UK, Australia and 30 other tiny-ass countries and calling it a mighty alliance. [/b][/quote]
    don&#39;t know about you, but growing up I had a bunch of &#39;aunt&#39; and &#39;uncles&#39; who had no blood relation to me, but were/are as big a part of my family and upbringing as any blood relative. and the fact that they weren&#39;t blood relatives didn&#39;t mean they weren&#39;t and integral part of my family..being there from the beginning, christening, communion....every birthday, graduations, weddings and so on.

    who are you to say who a family member is or isn&#39;t?? how dare you, seriously??

    and because they were just &#39;cousins&#39; as you say, doesn&#39;t mean the felt the loss of that horrible day to a lesser degree than say a sister or brother.

    i knew at least 10 people personally who lost their life that day. i worked across the street, watched people jump from 100 floors up in the sky (wondering how bad it must have been for them to jump)...was there when both towers came down, thinking it was the last thing i would ever see. those lucky terrorists as you say, still took something from us that we will never get back...

    I support George Bush whole heartedly to make sure no one ever gets so &#39;lucky&#39; again.

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    being someone&#39;s friend or boyfriend doesn&#39;t make em your family


    _BY LAW_

    how dare I?

    on one side you have Bush voters yammering on about the sanctity of marriage and how there should be a CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT to ensure this

    but when it comes to using 9-11 for political gain? hell yeah the more the merrier&#33; everyone&#39;s family when it comes to gathering up as many anti-Kerry signatures as possible

    can&#39;t have it both ways

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti+Oct 28 2004, 02:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (bitonti @ Oct 28 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by jetswin@Oct 28 2004, 01:13 PM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin-bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 02:09 PM
    [b] Boyfriend? Cousin? Friend? Friend of family?

    what&#39;s next? Charles Chips deliveryman? Postal Worker? cmon.

    im sorry but if it&#39;s not

    FATHER/MOTHER
    SON/DAUGHTER
    BROTHER/SISTER
    HUSBAND/WIFE

    then that person is not a 9-11 "FAMILY" [/b][/quote]
    wake up Bit....I wasn&#39;t going to respond after reading your first post, but if you want to beat this stupidity to death I will, you have absolutely NO right to say what you are saying, it&#39;s a lousy thing to say, let alone think. You have more regard for the terrorists than you do for the "families" and you know what, I wish I could throw my name on that list.

    sometimes the things you write piss the crap out of me [/b][/quote]
    the post says 9-11 families.

    where i come from Family doesn&#39;t mean FRIEND or FRIEND of Family it means BLOOD or legal alliance (remember the sanctity of MARRIAGE my Bush loving friend)

    some guy bangs some broad the night before 9-11, she says she&#39;s a "girlfriend" - in the haze and the flames of the day who is to say she&#39;s not?


    this letter is almost as blatant as assembling a coalition of Poland, UK, Australia and 30 other tiny-ass countries and calling it a mighty alliance. [/b][/quote]
    where I come from cousins share blood...

    one night stands do not qualify...

    you may be one of the few Americans that do not feel any alliance with the murdered 9-11 victims

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    hey you just called them "MURDERED" i thought 9-11 was an act of war like Pearl Harbor...

    does that mean you believe 9-11 was a criminal action? Isn&#39;t that exactly what you guys pounce on Kerry for saying?

    or do you just like using words indiscriminately...

    this letter says BOYFRIEND and FRIEND of FAMILY and FRIEND

    how are those valid relations?

    hey why doesn&#39;t the Bush campaign sign everyone who felt bad about 9-11 on one letter that would be really long list of names&#33;&#33; we are all "family" right

    this is such a blatant use of 9-11 for political gain -

    When the highlight of your presidency was getting bombed by suicide terrorists that&#39;s a sad statement about your Presidency.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 02:07 PM
    [b] hey you just called them "MURDERED" i thought 9-11 was an act of war like Pearl Harbor...

    does that mean you believe 9-11 was a criminal action? Isn&#39;t that exactly what you guys pounce on Kerry for saying?

    or do you just like using words indiscriminately...

    this letter says BOYFRIEND and FRIEND of FAMILY and FRIEND

    how are those valid relations?

    hey why doesn&#39;t the Bush campaign sign everyone who felt bad about 9-11 on one letter that would be really long list of names&#33;&#33; we are all "family" right

    this is such a blatant use of 9-11 for political gain -

    When the highlight of your presidency was getting bombed by suicide terrorists that&#39;s a sad statement about your Presidency. [/b][/quote]
    Bitonti, is this line unclear to you somehow?:
    [i]
    "We are mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters and friends."[/i]


    Take it for what it is...an election endorsement, one of a zillion. Everyone has "used 9-11 for political gain" you do it all the time with your "Pet Goat" remarks, etc. The Democrats on the 9-11 Comission preened about some vague memo while the cameras rolled, and then didn&#39;t even have time to actually speak with the President during his interview (Bob Kerrey).

    Get over yourself. These people have every right to write a letter and call themselves whatever they want. Does it affect my vote? Hell no....


    Hugs &#39;n&#39; Kisses,

    5ever

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 03:07 PM
    [b] hey you just called them "MURDERED" i thought 9-11 was an act of war like Pearl Harbor...

    does that mean you believe 9-11 was a criminal action? Isn&#39;t that exactly what you guys pounce on Kerry for saying?

    or do you just like using words indiscriminately...

    this letter says BOYFRIEND and FRIEND of FAMILY and FRIEND

    how are those valid relations?

    hey why doesn&#39;t the Bush campaign sign everyone who felt bad about 9-11 on one letter that would be really long list of names&#33;&#33; we are all "family" right

    this is such a blatant use of 9-11 for political gain -

    When the highlight of your presidency was getting bombed by suicide terrorists that&#39;s a sad statement about your Presidency. [/b][/quote]
    the only thing that is indiscriminate is you compassion

    I lost one of my best friend on the day (along with nearly 100 other sundry, as you would probably refer to them as, friends and acquaitances) he was as much a part of my family as the brother I never had.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 03:07 PM
    [b] hey you just called them "MURDERED" i thought 9-11 was an act of war like Pearl Harbor...

    does that mean you believe 9-11 was a criminal action? Isn&#39;t that exactly what you guys pounce on Kerry for saying?

    or do you just like using words indiscriminately...

    this letter says BOYFRIEND and FRIEND of FAMILY and FRIEND

    how are those valid relations?

    hey why doesn&#39;t the Bush campaign sign everyone who felt bad about 9-11 on one letter that would be really long list of names&#33;&#33; we are all "family" right

    this is such a blatant use of 9-11 for political gain -

    When the highlight of your presidency was getting bombed by suicide terrorists that&#39;s a sad statement about your Presidency. [/b][/quote]
    you really have a poor choice of words today, although considering the guy you support calls terrorism a "nuisance" i guess i can&#39;t blame you.

    you calling the worst terrorist attack on US soil, the worst terrorist attack anywhere, calling it a &#39;highlight&#39;. but the fact is that it happened 9 months into his term and he didn&#39;t really have a choice at it. everything changed that day and therefore his administration had to rewrite the script and plans they might have had.

    you don&#39;t know how different things would be today had your lucky terrorist not been successful that day...how different the economy would be...how different everything would be.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Oct 28 2004, 02:07 PM
    [b] hey you just called them "MURDERED" i thought 9-11 was an act of war like Pearl Harbor...

    does that mean you believe 9-11 was a criminal action? Isn&#39;t that exactly what you guys pounce on Kerry for saying?

    or do you just like using words indiscriminately...

    this letter says BOYFRIEND and FRIEND of FAMILY and FRIEND

    how are those valid relations?

    hey why doesn&#39;t the Bush campaign sign everyone who felt bad about 9-11 on one letter that would be really long list of names&#33;&#33; we are all "family" right

    this is such a blatant use of 9-11 for political gain -

    When the highlight of your presidency was getting bombed by suicide terrorists that&#39;s a sad statement about your Presidency. [/b][/quote]
    Matt, I really think you need to back off on this one. No offense dude, but why on earth are you getting off on belittling a bunch of people that feel as though they have a personal tie to the victims of a terrorist act.

    Sometime you take up the most ridiculous side of an issue. You are REALLY making yourself look like a total prick in this regard.

    JMHO

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