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    Take this for what it's worth, something I found on another site I thought would make fun/interesting reading and make for a good topic. For the record, I am a Republican and voted for Mr. Bush without hesitation.

    Enjoy!

    [quote][b]Dear Friends,

    Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in the words of Monty Python, 'always look on the bright side of life!' There IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

    Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

    1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

    2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

    3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

    4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%: [url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/direction_of_country.html)]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/President...f_country.html)[/url], think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%: [url=http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm)]http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm)[/url], and don't approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%: [url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/bush_ja.html)]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/President...4/bush_ja.html)[/url]. (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

    5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

    6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And no more show tunes!

    7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

    8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

    9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't have to buy now.

    10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress,including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

    11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

    12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

    13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided.

    14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at
    the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

    15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push
    for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or B) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

    16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies
    are coming!!!

    17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news
    is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

    Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country-- it doesn't even need a president!'"

    But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.

    Yours,

    Michael Moore
    [email]MMFlint@aol.com[/email]
    [url]www.michaelmoore.com[/url]
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    I hope he makes another movie in 2008. Matbe one about how Guiliani violated the civil rights of the criminals and pornographers in NYC when he cleaned up the streets. Thank You Michael Moore for inspiring millions of people to vote for Bush!

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    i have to admit..after reading that I do feel better...
    I am now convinced that if the dems had a southern candidate we would have won..the evil liberal senator from mass lost by a mere 3 million..
    enjoy these four years repugs...but your president is still the most hated!

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    If Guilliani does run it will be interesting. It was reported in 2000 that Bush didn't recieve as much support from devout Christians because of his drinking problem.

    People were saying they didn't vote for Kerry because he had been divorced.

    Imagine what they will think of Rudy and his torrid sex-life. Not to mention his stance on Gay rights and Abortion, unless of course he decides to flip-flop.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 03:10 PM
    [b] i have to admit..after reading that I do feel better...
    I am now convinced that if the dems had a southern candidate we would have won..the evil liberal senator from mass lost by a mere 3 million..
    enjoy these four years repugs...but your president is still the most hated! [/b][/quote]
    Moore forgot to mention that the next Republican candidate won't have all that Iraq baggage on his hands. Can you say landslide! Keep drinking the kool aid sucker!

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by chiefst2000+Nov 5 2004, 03:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (chiefst2000 @ Nov 5 2004, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 03:10 PM
    [b] i have to admit..after reading that I do feel better...
    I am now convinced that if the dems had a southern candidate we would have won..the evil liberal senator from mass lost by a mere 3 million..
    enjoy these four years repugs...but your president is still the most hated&#33; [/b][/quote]
    Moore forgot to mention that the next Republican candidate won&#39;t have all that Iraq baggage on his hands. Can you say landslide&#33; Keep drinking the kool aid sucker&#33; [/b][/quote]
    Do you feel the Iraq War, and active U.S. occupation/law enforcement within that nation will be over by 2007/2008? I think that may be an optimistic view on this issue. The forthcoming elections and the after effects of them will be a better indicator of what the future holds there.

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    exactly&#33;and allah willing...there will be NO terror on us soil...so the next repub can&#39;t play the 9-11 card..if 9-11 never happened, bush would be home now.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Darkstar Rising+Nov 5 2004, 03:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Darkstar Rising @ Nov 5 2004, 03:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by chiefst2000@Nov 5 2004, 03:13 PM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin-bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 03:10 PM
    [b] i have to admit..after reading that I do feel better...
    I am now convinced that if the dems had a southern candidate we would have won..the evil liberal senator from mass lost by a mere 3 million..
    enjoy these four years repugs...but your president is still the most hated&#33; [/b][/quote]
    Moore forgot to mention that the next Republican candidate won&#39;t have all that Iraq baggage on his hands. Can you say landslide&#33; Keep drinking the kool aid sucker&#33; [/b][/quote]
    Do you feel the Iraq War, and active U.S. occupation/law enforcement within that nation will be over by 2007/2008? I think that may be an optimistic view on this issue. The forthcoming elections and the after effects of them will be a better indicator of what the future holds there. [/b][/quote]
    Theres absolutely no doubt in my mind that in 2008 Iraq will be a free and democratic society. I don&#39;t know what the future will bring in terms of the war on terror. There are issues we have to deal with in Iran and N. Korea. No matter what happens the candidates running in &#39;08 will not have been directly involved in the decision making process and therefore not be weighed down with any negative baggage as a result.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 04:10 PM
    [b] I am now convinced that if the dems had a southern candidate we would have won..the evil liberal senator from mass lost by a mere 3 million..
    enjoy these four years repugs...but your president is still the most hated&#33; [/b][/quote]
    bman... I told you that yesterday. I told you that the pompous liberal wealthy candidate from New England doesn&#39;t relate to any part of America other than new England, California, and some high Hawaiians. You need someone Southern ala Clinton/Gore or Carter... and it can&#39;t be some sleazy untrustworthy ambulance chaser.
    Bush is only hated so much because he&#39;s inarticulate, comes across as a bafoon, and because of the lies that have been spread by Kerry and Co. he&#39;s really not a bad president in reality. I&#39;ll never change YOUR mind on that, but that&#39;s my two cents... ok, that&#39;s my 2 dollars.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 04:16 PM
    [b] exactly&#33;and allah willing...there will be NO terror on us soil...so the next repub can&#39;t play the 9-11 card..if 9-11 never happened, bush would be home now. [/b][/quote]
    If 9/11 never happened Bush would have won in a landslide as you&#39;ve never seen before. There&#39;d be no way for the libs to spin the actual job creation he did into a job loss scenario. There&#39;d be no way for them to spin the continually growing economy into the disaster they say Bush created. Things would be so peachy in this country that the Democrats wouldn&#39;t have known WHAT to attack Bush on.

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    [quote][b]No matter what happens the candidates running in &#39;08 will not have been directly involved in the decision making process and therefore not be weighed down with any negative baggage as a result. [/b][/quote]

    Why would you call it "Negative Baggage"? The War in Iraq was a neccisary part in the greater "War on Terror/War for American Safety". There is no negative baggage from such a noble course of action.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Darkstar Rising[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 03:25 PM
    [b] [quote][b]No matter what happens the candidates running in &#39;08 will not have been directly involved in the decision making process and therefore not be weighed down with any negative baggage as a result. [/b][/quote]

    Why would you call it "Negative Baggage"? The War in Iraq was a neccisary part in the greater "War on Terror/War for American Safety". There is no negative baggage from such a noble course of action. [/b][/quote]
    Many Americans are uncomfortable with any type of war. I suport the War in Iraq 100%. But as with any war it is quite easy to put a negative spin on things. I respect the president for having the courage to fight this war even though it might have hurt him politicaly. I do think it is a central part of the war on terror.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by chiefst2000+Nov 5 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (chiefst2000 @ Nov 5 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Darkstar Rising[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 03:25 PM
    [b] [quote][b]No matter what happens the candidates running in &#39;08 will not have been directly involved in the decision making process and therefore not be weighed down with any negative baggage as a result. [/b][/quote]

    Why would you call it "Negative Baggage"? The War in Iraq was a neccisary part in the greater "War on Terror/War for American Safety". There is no negative baggage from such a noble course of action. [/b][/quote]
    Many Americans are uncomfortable with any type of war. I suport the War in Iraq 100%. But as with any war it is quite easy to put a negative spin on things. I respect the president for having the courage to fight this war even though it might have hurt him politicaly. I do think it is a central part of the war on terror. [/b][/quote]
    Well then, you shouldn&#39;t fall into the liberal way of making negative references to it then when you bring it up.

    If you truly believe, as you stated above, that a potential Republican 2008 candidate would have to somehow "hide" from potential ties to the War for American Safety, as opposed to embracing their role in it, you are very clearly mistaken. Doing the right thing should never be run from.

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    He&#39;s right, Kerry&#39;s entire campaign was him shouting at the top of his lungs about how liberal he was. He even said so during his hunting trip photo-op.

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    That piece by Moore is GREAT. I LOVE IT.

    Clear evidence that the libs JUST DON&#39;T GET IT.

    So go ahead. Roll out the same game plan in the run-up to &#39;08. Then watch your ideology and contempt for America get beaten down in the elections, YET AGAIN.



    ps Frankly, Michael Moore is as happy, if not happier, than we Republicans over the outcome of this election. Without the evil Bush to throw darts at, the Moore empire (and yes folks, he has built himself an empire &#036;&#036;&#036;) deflates like a whoopie cushion bearing the brunt of his fat ass.

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    [quote][b]Bush&#39;s victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916. [/b][/quote]

    Fact is, as we sit here and the absantee ballots are counted the President&#39;s lead is growing. 52%-47% as of this afternoon.

    [quote][b]Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan. [/b][/quote]

    Wasn&#39;t Moore actively working the state of Ohio on election day? Obviously he doesn&#39;t get the fact that he was a major part of the rats problem&#33; GOOD&#33; :lol:

    [quote][b]88% of Bush&#39;s support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn&#39;t such a long time&#33; If you&#39;re ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age. [/b][/quote]

    Once again, fat-ass uses half-truths to get his point across; the President was way up across the board in every group other then white voters. Hispanic 2000-35%, 2004- 44%....blacks 2000-9% 2004-11%.....way up in the female category.


    [quote][b]Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress,including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It&#39;s always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can&#39;t. [/b][/quote]

    Good thing GWB is still the President...now black-Americans have a chance to ascend the power structure in government...unlike when the rats are in the WH and left blacks behind as was the case with clinton..the first black President&#33;

    [quote][b]Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he&#39;s having this week. It&#39;s all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he&#39;s just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It&#39;ll be like everyone&#39;s last month in 12th grade -- you&#39;ve already made it, so it&#39;s party time&#33; Perhaps he&#39;ll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn&#39;t he? He&#39;s already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass. [/b][/quote]

    Once again fat-ass proves how out of touch with reality he is...unlike clinton who sat back and got interns to give him blow-jobs during his second term GWB will not do likewise.

    [quote][b]There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million&#33; That&#39;s not a landslide -- it means we&#39;re almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not&#33; Buck up&#33; Have hope&#33; More sports analogies
    are coming&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]

    Considering the effort put into this election on kerri&#39;s behalf by the hollow-head community, the liberal media and 527 groups, they got their asses handed to them.

    [quote][b]Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." [/b][/quote]

    Wrong again....half of them voted AGAINST GWB...not for kerri

    [quote][b] That&#39;s more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. [/b][/quote]

    Who gives a fuq&#33; More people voted for GWB then kerri...and someone should tell fat-ass as he tries to console his fellow losers that is all the matters&#33;&#33;

    Hey Moore-on...[b]ENJOY THE NEXT FOUR YEARS&#33;&#33;&#33;[/b] :lol: :lol: :D :D :P :P

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    Michael Moore is a vile, disgusting creature. Instant karma&#39;s gonna get him.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 03:16 PM
    [b] exactly&#33;and allah willing...there will be NO terror on us soil...so the next repub can&#39;t play the 9-11 card..if 9-11 never happened, bush would be home now. [/b][/quote]
    So let me get this straight.

    The reason you hope for there not to be any terrorist attacks on the US is because it will help out the democrat agenda?

    Unbelievable.

    If 9/11 never happened there wouldn&#39;t be 3000 dead people in NY. There wouldn&#39;t have been hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. Forget it. You make me tired.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Enrique Pallazzo+Nov 5 2004, 03:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Enrique Pallazzo @ Nov 5 2004, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bman[/i]@Nov 5 2004, 04:10 PM
    [b] I am now convinced that if the dems had a southern candidate we would have won..the evil liberal senator from mass lost by a mere 3 million..
    enjoy these four years repugs...but your president is still the most hated&#33; [/b][/quote]
    bman... I told you that yesterday. I told you that the pompous liberal wealthy candidate from New England doesn&#39;t relate to any part of America other than new England, California, and some high Hawaiians. You need someone Southern ala Clinton/Gore or Carter... and it can&#39;t be some sleazy untrustworthy ambulance chaser.
    Bush is only hated so much because he&#39;s inarticulate, comes across as a bafoon, and because of the lies that have been spread by Kerry and Co. he&#39;s really not a bad president in reality. I&#39;ll never change YOUR mind on that, but that&#39;s my two cents... ok, that&#39;s my 2 dollars. [/b][/quote]
    Yeh, it really worked for Gore in 2000.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by jetsfaninCO[/i]@Nov 8 2004, 02:28 PM
    [b] I told you that the pompous liberal wealthy candidate from New England doesn&#39;t relate to any part of America other than new England, California, and some high Hawaiians. You need someone Southern ala Clinton/Gore or Carter... and it can&#39;t be some sleazy untrustworthy ambulance chaser.
    Bush is only hated so much because he&#39;s inarticulate, comes across as a bafoon, and because of the lies that have been spread by Kerry and Co. he&#39;s really not a bad president in reality. I&#39;ll never change YOUR mind on that, but that&#39;s my two cents... ok, that&#39;s my 2 dollars. [/QUOTE]
    Yeh, it really worked for Gore in 2000. [/b][/quote]
    I&#39;m not saying it guarantees a won election. I AM saying it&#39;s tougher for a New Englander than it is for a Southerner. If Gore were running this year instead of Kerry you might have seen different results. Kerry really had an easy election to win and completely blew it.

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