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    A new tape was just intercepted of Al Zarqawi cheering on his insurgent buddies in Fallujah saying, "Victory is near at hand!" It reminds me of how the Japanese leaders used to lie to their people and soldiers during WWII. They, too, used to tell them that victory was close at hand even though they were losing island after island to the US. They also used to explain to the Japanese that a battle loss was a moral victory. At least they weren't captured by the "OTHERS." They actually convinced military AND civilians to commit suicide if capture was imminent. Thousands of families, men, women, and children, threw themselves off of cliffs to avoid capture. I only wish the Fallujah insurgents would do that as well.

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    It's only a matter of time before his scrawny ass is killed or captured...
    If captured, you can be sure the lefties will be there to make sure his rights are read and he receives three square meals a day....

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    It's over for these guys...and while we may unfortunately lose more brave American soldiers, they are on the run and are desperate no matter what the likes of bitionti and west coast hole want people to believe.

    Funny how this Rueters story slipped under the radar screen a few days ago and was not covered by the MSM:

    [b]Al Qaeda "to disintegrate" in 2 years
    Wed 10 November, 2004 15:29 [/b]

    By Michael Holden

    LONDON (Reuters) - Al Qaeda will begin to disintegrate within two years as its various factions start to squabble and militants return to their local roots, a senior parliamentary adviser has predicted.

    Professor Michael Clarke, a specialist adviser to lawmakers on the House of Commons defence committee, said the consequence would be that the security services would be able to win the "war on terror" as the group's structure fell apart.

    "I think (cracks) are going to start to appear in the next 12 months to two years," he told Reuters at a security conference in London on Wednesday.

    "It's going to start to fragment and split up," he said.

    Clarke said he envisaged the network breaking down into smaller, disparate cells which would be more easily infiltrated and dealt with, bringing an end to the group's ability to carry out major attacks along the lines of the September 11 attacks

    "Terrorism will go back to being about more local issues. It will be reduced to a level which people can live with," he said.

    Al Qaeda's pyramid structure -- with Osama bin Laden and about 30 associates at its head spreading out to a loose franchise of affiliated networks -- would begin to prove a major weakness when it was once a strength, he said.

    Groups associated with al Qaeda across the world, such as those in southeast Asia, would start to pursue their local agendas, he added.

    Clarke pointed to Iraq, where Baathist supporters of deposed president Saddam Hussein were fighting alongside foreign Jihadists linked to al Qaeda although the groups had nothing in common.

    Ultimately the Baathists would go their own way and the pyramid would be weakened.

    Clarke noted that even association with bin Laden's network had proved damaging to the cause of other militants such as Chechen separatists.

    Clarke, director of the International Policy Institute at London's King's College, said this would be fuelled further as the "glamour" surrounding bin Laden started to wear off and political in-fighting took hold.

    "Whenever you get a general movement, people will vie for prominence and that's what I think is the next stage," he said.

    He said a major failing of al Qaeda was its complete misunderstanding of western society and the belief it could terrorise governments into achieving their aims.

    "They are not going to frighten Western society out of policies, they are not going to bring down the House of Saud, their first real objective, by terrorism," he said.

    "They can cause great inconvenience but they can't damage them in the way they think they can."

    [url=http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=618678§ion=news]http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticl...618678§ion=news[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by New England Hick[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 12:48 PM
    [b] It's only a matter of time before his scrawny ass is killed or captured...
    If captured, you can be sure the lefties will be there to make sure his rights are read and he receives three square meals a day.... [/b][/quote]
    Of course the libs will accuse Bush of doing it at a politically opportune time. He'll be captured. I have no doubt of that... if he's not killed by us or himself first.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by New England Hick[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 12:48 PM
    [b] ...make sure his rights are read and he receives three square meals a day.... [/b][/quote]
    Im not a "lib" but I have to wonder...are you advocating we sink to their level and abuse prisoners?

    Here's hoping they get him, soon, and if they take him alive (which quite honestly, it'll be a lot easier if he's KIA), follow due process as he'll obviously be found guilty, and then he can be punished, hopefully via death.

    Here's also hoping Clarke's prediction is accurate...its logical at least.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Brooklyn Jet+Nov 12 2004, 02:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Brooklyn Jet @ Nov 12 2004, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-New England Hick[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 12:48 PM
    [b] ...make sure his rights are read and he receives three square meals a day.... [/b][/quote]
    Im not a "lib" but I have to wonder...are you advocating we sink to their level and abuse prisoners?
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    Yeah I&#39;m concerned with the news that has come out on that in the last few days with the candidate for Attorney General.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Brooklyn Jet[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 01:10 PM
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    Im not a "lib" but I have to wonder...are you advocating we sink to their level and abuse prisoners?

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    Abusing that piece of filth isn&#39;t sinking to their level.. He beheaded innocent civilians ALIVE.... Abusing that scum ISN&#39;T abusing innocent civilians.... It&#39;s abusing the lowest form of subhuman life.... And yes I would LOVE to abuse the son of a *****..... I&#39;m sure the libs will never allow US forces to torture the ****bag in our custody so we&#39;ll just hand him over to the Pakistanis.... Let them do our dirty work for us... ;)

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Brooklyn Jet[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 01:10 PM
    [b] and then he can be punished, hopefully via death.

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    hopefully via needles and battery acid.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by flashlight1+Nov 12 2004, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (flashlight1 @ Nov 12 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brooklyn Jet[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 01:10 PM
    [b] and then he can be punished, hopefully via death.

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    hopefully via needles and battery acid. [/b][/quote]
    nah...behead him and video tape it.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by New England Hick[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 02:31 PM
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    Abusing that piece of filth isn&#39;t sinking to their level.. He beheaded innocent civilians ALIVE.... Abusing that scum ISN&#39;T abusing innocent civilians.... It&#39;s abusing the lowest form of subhuman life.... And yes I would LOVE to abuse the son of a *****..... I&#39;m sure the libs will never allow US forces to torture the ****bag in our custody so we&#39;ll just hand him over to the Pakistanis.... Let them do our dirty work for us... ;) [/b][/quote]
    I know what you guys are all saying, but doing that DOES stoop to his level. We should be showing the world that we are genuinely a good people. Being concerned for the human rights of WHOEVER it may be is the best way to get more support from the world when we need it. This country has not had the best record when it comes to human rights going back to WWII, The American-Mexican War, and even the fighting aginst the Native Americans. Building back the trust in America worldwide has been a long tough road... even longer thanks so much to John Kerry and his friends. Being standup human beings and not the neaderthals we&#39;re fighting against can only help no matter how Angry we are.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Enrique Pallazzo+Nov 12 2004, 06:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Enrique Pallazzo @ Nov 12 2004, 06:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-New England Hick[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 02:31 PM
    [b]
    Abusing that piece of filth isn&#39;t sinking to their level.. He beheaded innocent civilians ALIVE.... Abusing that scum ISN&#39;T abusing innocent civilians.... It&#39;s abusing the lowest form of subhuman life.... And yes I would LOVE to abuse the son of a *****..... I&#39;m sure the libs will never allow US forces to torture the ****bag in our custody so we&#39;ll just hand him over to the Pakistanis.... Let them do our dirty work for us... ;) [/b][/quote]
    I know what you guys are all saying, but doing that DOES stoop to his level. We should be showing the world that we are genuinely a good people. Being concerned for the human rights of WHOEVER it may be is the best way to get more support from the world when we need it. This country has not had the best record when it comes to human rights going back to WWII, The American-Mexican War, and even the fighting aginst the Native Americans. Building back the trust in America worldwide has been a long tough road... even longer thanks so much to John Kerry and his friends. Being standup human beings and not the neaderthals we&#39;re fighting against can only help no matter how Angry we are. [/b][/quote]
    Thats what I was trying to say about Abu Gharib.

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    I have a Friend that is Lebanese and speaks Arabic..He said he&#39;s read
    stories on Arab Web sites that the Majority of terrorist Leaders tried to
    Talk Osama out of the 9/11 attacks..They were afraid a Major attack would
    piss of the US enough to come after them Big Time..It was originally Planned
    to go during Clintons watch where the said maybe they could get just a few
    Cruise missiles lobed at them but couldn&#39;t get everything ready by then..Who
    Knows??I think Bubba would have went after them too..Or at least their Women&#33;
    :lol:

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    He should be handled as the Bible demands. Death via Public Stoning.

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    I&#39;m for using the Douglas MacArthur model for dealing with terrorist scum

    Soak a few hundred of them in pig blood ... line them up on a firing squad ... shoot them dead ... and bury them in unmarked graves

    And of course leave a few terrorists alive {as MacArthur did in the Philippines} to witness the entire ordeal ... then release them back into the hands of their comrades so they can share all of the gory details

    MacArthur did this when he encountered Islamic terrorism in the Philippines ... after which the Islamo-facists ceased in using terrorism as a means of combat

    In fact, after DM sent his message to the terrorists {loud and clear} ... there was not another act of Islamic terrorism committed on Philippine soil for an entire generation

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Green Jets & Ham[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 08:27 PM
    [b] I&#39;m for using the Douglas MacArthur model for dealing with terrorist scum

    Soak a few hundred of them in pig blood ... line them up on a firing squad ... shoot them dead ... and bury them in unmarked graves

    And of course leave a few terrorists alive {as MacArthur did in the Philippines} to witness the entire ordeal ... then release them back into the hands of their comrades so they can share all of the gory details

    MacArthur did this when he encountered Islamic terrorism in the Philippines ... after which the Islamo-facists ceased in using terrorism as a means of combat

    In fact, after DM sent his message to the terrorists {loud and clear} ... there was not another act of Islamic terrorism committed on Philippine soil for an entire generation [/b][/quote]
    Actually Ham..It was Pershing and it wasn&#39;t true.. ;)

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by savage69+Nov 12 2004, 10:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (savage69 &#064; Nov 12 2004, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Green Jets & Ham[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 08:27 PM
    [b] I&#39;m for using the Douglas MacArthur model for dealing with terrorist scum

    Soak a few hundred of them in pig blood ... line them up on a firing squad ... shoot them dead ... and bury them in unmarked graves

    And of course leave a few terrorists alive {as MacArthur did in the Philippines} to witness the entire ordeal ... then release them back into the hands of their comrades so they can share all of the gory details

    MacArthur did this when he encountered Islamic terrorism in the Philippines ... after which the Islamo-facists ceased in using terrorism as a means of combat

    In fact, after DM sent his message to the terrorists {loud and clear} ... there was not another act of Islamic terrorism committed on Philippine soil for an entire generation [/b][/quote]
    Actually Ham..It was Pershing and it wasn&#39;t true.. ;) [/b][/quote]
    I should have known it was a fable ... it sounded too good to be true :D

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15+Nov 12 2004, 05:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Section109Row15 @ Nov 12 2004, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by Enrique Pallazzo@Nov 12 2004, 06:59 PM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin-New England Hick[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 02:31 PM
    [b]
    Abusing that piece of filth isn&#39;t sinking to their level.. He beheaded innocent civilians ALIVE.... Abusing that scum ISN&#39;T abusing innocent civilians.... It&#39;s abusing the lowest form of subhuman life.... And yes I would LOVE to abuse the son of a *****..... I&#39;m sure the libs will never allow US forces to torture the ****bag in our custody so we&#39;ll just hand him over to the Pakistanis.... Let them do our dirty work for us... ;) [/b][/quote]
    I know what you guys are all saying, but doing that DOES stoop to his level. We should be showing the world that we are genuinely a good people. Being concerned for the human rights of WHOEVER it may be is the best way to get more support from the world when we need it. This country has not had the best record when it comes to human rights going back to WWII, The American-Mexican War, and even the fighting aginst the Native Americans. Building back the trust in America worldwide has been a long tough road... even longer thanks so much to John Kerry and his friends. Being standup human beings and not the neaderthals we&#39;re fighting against can only help no matter how Angry we are. [/b][/quote]
    Thats what I was trying to say about Abu Gharib. [/b][/quote]
    Yes, putting a pair of panties on a man&#39;s head is more degrading than chopping it off&#33;

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by savage69[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 05:42 PM
    [b] I have a Friend that is Lebanese and speaks Arabic..He said he&#39;s read
    stories on Arab Web sites that the Majority of terrorist Leaders tried to
    Talk Osama out of the 9/11 attacks..They were afraid a Major attack would
    piss of the US enough to come after them Big Time..It was originally Planned
    to go during Clintons watch where the said maybe they could get just a few
    Cruise missiles lobed at them but couldn&#39;t get everything ready by then..Who
    Knows??I think Bubba would have went after them too..Or at least their Women&#33;
    :lol: [/b][/quote]
    Wait...the liberals in this forum said the Arabs in other countries were not aligned with each other and have no knowledge of, or connection to Al Qaeda terrorism&#33; Could they be mistaken? GASP

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY[/i]@Nov 12 2004, 11:54 AM
    [b] It&#39;s over for these guys...and while we may unfortunately lose more brave American soldiers, they are on the run and are desperate no matter what the likes of bitionti and west coast hole want people to believe. [/b][/quote]
    i never said we wouldn&#39;t defeat the terrorists, i&#39;ve questioned what exactly we are fighting for...

    the cause of "Iraqi democracy" isn&#39;t worth 1 american life, let alone a thousand

    there is no guaruntee that a thriving Iraqi democracy would stem the creation of more terrorists - the problem has always been Saudi and Pakistan... not Iraq

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