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Thread: Legalize Polygamy or polygny?

  1. #1
    Here is a topic we haven't deleved into at JI. I was watching a piece recently on a polygamyst in his late 50's, married to 5 woman (married them as young teens--14 or 15 ) in Utah. He has 31 children that are known of....The claim to happy, but seem to be really hopeless and sad.

    How do these wives fare? How does this affect the children?

    Anyone here have intimate knowledge of the subject or feel, as I do, it leads to very bad things--abuse of woman and children, ect?

    The U.S gov't, obviously, doesn't care to enforce these laws much, so it's already pretty much legal--especially in Utah and Arizona... :rolleyes:

    Some fear, if gay marriage becomes legal, polygamy will soon become legal, as will other weird mutations of marriage--i.e 3 men married to the same 3 women--kind of one big marriage, split among 6 people :o



    [url=http://www.polygamyinfo.com/]http://www.polygamyinfo.com/[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Riggins44[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 04:20 PM
    [b] Here is a topic we haven't deleved into at JI. I was watching a piece recently on a polygamyst in his late 50's, married to 5 woman (married them as young teens--14 or 15 ) in Utah. He has 31 children that are known of....The claim to happy, but seem to be really hopeless and sad.

    How do these wives fare? How does this affect the children?

    Anyone here have intimate knowledge of the subject or feel, as I do, it leads to very bad things--abuse of woman and children, ect?

    The U.S gov't, obviously, doesn't care to enforce these laws much, so it's already pretty much legal--especially in Utah and Arizona... :rolleyes:

    Some fear, if gay marriage becomes legal, polygamy will soon become legal, as will other weird mutations of marriage--i.e 3 men married to the same 3 women--kind of one big marriage, split among 6 people :o



    [url=http://www.polygamyinfo.com/]http://www.polygamyinfo.com/[/url] [/b][/quote]
    I am against it, but I doubt anyone can stop it. It is a really tough issue to deal with. Most politicains won't touch. I also thought Utah banned polygram a while ago or am I wrong?

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    Now this is civil discussion B)

    I think it is banned and that Tom Green (I mentioned above) fellow did go jail for being so forward about all his wives on TV.

    I just believe it's tough to enforce on a large scale, as large as folks keep quiet about it---Plus, polygamyst claim people that commit adultry should be prospecuted before them. Big problem in Utah, were the divorce rate is fairly high.

    It's a tough situation...But seems like a very bad one.

    Here's some info on Utah: [url=http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm]http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Riggins44[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 04:45 PM
    [b] Now this is civil discussion B)

    I think it is banned and that Tom Green (I mentioned above) fellow did go jail for being so forward about all his wives on TV.

    I just believe it's tough to enforce on a large scale, as large as folks keep quiet about it---Plus, polygamyst claim people that commit adultry should be prospecuted before them. Big problem in Utah, were the divorce rate is fairly high.

    It's a tough situation...But seems like a very bad one.

    Here's some info on Utah: [url=http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm]http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm[/url] [/b][/quote]
    Actually they tend to use the freedom of religion as an excuse. To me it's just an excuse to keep doing it so they can't get caught. That is why the goverment has a hard time trying to stop it. The religion crap they are using as an excuse.

  5. #5
    Marriage should, in my opinion, be a CIVIL contract. If ANY group of human beings wishes to engage in a civil contract (like a business for example, or aany other social joining with fiscal and rights related implications) they should be permitted to do so, with the specific understanding that they face the same laws of civil contract dissolution when and if the contract terms are ended.

    It is not the Govt.'s job to tell it's citizens who can or cannot enter into a social contract. It's ONLY job is to provide resolution should a contract end with disagreement or difficulties regarding the terms of the contract.

    Freedom is freedom. Put simply, if two (or more) people wish to live in a manner they wish, while breaking no laws (and I don't mean religiously based repression laws like illegalizing homosexuallity or polygamy, or smoking marijuana for that matter), and doing no harm to others (and no, seeing two homsexuals kiss in public is not "harm"), then they should be permitted to do so. If the terms of the contract are broken, well, that is one big reason why we have a CIVIL court system.

  6. #6
    I have studied the Mormon religion. Polygamy should never have been a lynchpin to any belief. I believe that Joseph Smith incorporated Polygamy into the LDS religious core because he fell in love with a woman after he was married and wished to sanctify that union as well. The reason the gov't steps in is, I believe, to protect the offspring, children dont have a voice strong enough to protect themselves..except for the gov't.

    I am completely against polygamy.

    LL

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    If you're interested in the subject, definitely check out "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer (sp?). Great read, and some really crazy sh*t that's still going on today in Utah and other parts of the country.

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    Two wives = twice the nagging. For the sake of all husband please make this illegal.

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