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    the Nets finalized a deal for Clifford Robinson today according to ESPN radio. Id be shocked if there is anyone picking against the Nets to win the Atlantic now as this moves gives them a nice defensive presence and a big increase in the depth of their team. Thoughts?

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    I like the pick up but I don't know if it was worth giving up a 2005 and 2007 2nd round pick for him. chances are we got a great shot at the atlantic title but I honestly don't think we'll win the nba title this year so we just gave up 2 future players for a guy that will just take us to the playoffs, making us get a ****tier pick in the draft and robinson will probably retire at the end of the season or we won't resign him cause his contract is up. I'd give 1 2nd rounder for him but 2 i think plus the salary exemption is kinda dumb. Lets hope if works out though.

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    I've always been a Cliff Robinson fan. Still do like the player.

    However, he just got busted with dope less than two weeks ago and he's pushing 40. I'd imagine the Warriors were jumping for joy when they heard the Nets would give them two draft picks to take Clifford off of their hands. They should've at least thrown in Popeye Jones.

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    A 2nd round pick in the NBA is like a freebie. Sorry to lose the cap exemption, though. The great thing about this is that stiff Collins will find some needed pinetime.

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    Originally posted by JumbalayaJet@Feb 15 2005, 09:52 AM
    A 2nd round pick in the NBA is like a freebie. Sorry to lose the cap exemption, though. The great thing about this is that stiff Collins will find some needed pinetime.
    Have to agree just notice in so many NBA trades second round picks get thrown in to lots of them- the majority of your second round picks will never see any time in the NBA . Robinson provides needed help upfront for Nets playoff run-

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    I cant imagine getting worked up over giving up our 2nd round draft choices. Few second rounders do much anything in the league and with a guy like Kidd on the team a cheap vet is usually a better fit than a snd rounder making the team. Alot of teams go so far as to try to dump first rounders late in the draft due to the cost and odds of that person making the team. Im not exactly sure how the exemption works. I thought it was only good for one season and I think we still have another 5 million left off the Kittles deal.

    Im not sure if the Nets will start Robinson or not. Depending on the matchups Id start Robinson and bench Collins and hope his game comes alive against the teams second string guys. They could do the same with Kristic but Id rather see him on the floor with Kidd than with the backup group.

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    Originally posted by Jason423@Feb 15 2005, 10:09 AM
    I cant imagine getting worked up over giving up our 2nd round draft choices. Few second rounders do much anything in the league and with a guy like Kidd on the team a cheap vet is usually a better fit than a snd rounder making the team. Alot of teams go so far as to try to dump first rounders late in the draft due to the cost and odds of that person making the team. Im not exactly sure how the exemption works. I thought it was only good for one season and I think we still have another 5 million left off the Kittles deal.

    Im not sure if the Nets will start Robinson or not. Depending on the matchups Id start Robinson and bench Collins and hope his game comes alive against the teams second string guys. They could do the same with Kristic but Id rather see him on the floor with Kidd than with the backup group.
    What I read is the Nets still have 5 million cap exemption to use with this Robinson trade. Guaranteed contracts comprise most NBA team rosters -second rounders will not get them so the probability of them making any team is small

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    If robinson was, say 34 years old, I wouldn't have a problem with this. yes, most 2nd round picks don't pan out in the NBA to make a MAJOR impact, but I just don't think Cliff was worth 2 of them and a cap exemption. I would not complain if it was only 1 2nd round pick. Pickin up this guy wasn't gonna make us championship contenders...it was just enough to get us to the playoffs, foregoing a decent lottery number and picking up a hot college PF that cliff could play behind next year...if he decides to resign with us cause his contract is up at the end of the season.

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    http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/s...?starledger?spn

    Nets acquire Robinson from Golden State
    Tuesday, February 15, 2005
    BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
    Star-Ledger Staff
    Here's how desperate the Nets have become in their quest to add size to their lineup:

    Late yesterday they brought in a 6-10 forward who takes down only 2.7 rebounds per game, and then called it an addition that could put them over in the top in the playoff chase.

    Clifford Robinson, the 38-year-old defensive specialist who has a distinguished record for turning unglamorous tasks into winning ingredients, was acquired from the Golden State Warriors for two second-round draft picks.

    While it may seem pointless to add a player who doesn't represent a significant talent upgrade, Robinson's game is no longer measured by numbers, and the Nets believe he will give them frontcourt flexibility because of his competence in guarding all three positions.

    "From a roster standpoint, we were out of balance," general manager Ed Stefanski said last night. "And with time winding down, we had to do it soon -- before the break -- or it wouldn't make sense. We're playing very good basketball, and we have to take a shot at the playoffs now.

    "Cliff does all the intangible things. He's a terrific defender, and he'll make open jump shots. And as anyone has seen since the acquisition of Vince (Carter), our bigs are getting open shots."

    But defense is why Robinson is expected to be a rotation mainstay for the rest of the season, unlike recent pickup Elden Campbell.

    In 42 games, Robinson has averaged 8.5 points (39.8 percent shooting), 2.7 rebounds and 1.8 assists in 26 minutes per game, and he has played only 39 minutes (three games) in the past month because of back problems and a five-game suspension.

    But he can guard anybody, which will provide Lawrence Frank with another option when Jason Collins encounters foul trouble or when Jabari Smith can't follow the defensive game plan.

    "Cliff can guard threes, fours and some fives," team president Rod Thorn said. "One of our weaknesses is that other than Jason Collins, we're not good defensively on the front line. So now we're not as strapped defensively when Jason gets in foul trouble, and we can play them together. We were one big guy short up front."

    Reigning MVP Kevin Garnett, whose Timberwolves play the Nets tonight at Target Center, gave Robinson the highest recommendation Dec. 10, 2003, when he called him "hands-down the best defensive player in the league."

    Twice, Robinson was an All-Defensive second team selection. He was also the NBA's Sixth Man Award honoree in 1993 and an All-Star in 1994. But most of all, he is a pro's pro, who has survived 16 years in the league because he prepares and knows his role.

    "I definitely don't feel like an old man," Robinson said last month. "I have days where I feel like I don't want to play, but once I get on the court and get running with guys, it all changes."

    Adonal Foyle put it best.

    "I've always thought of him as being underrated," the Warriors center said. "He never quite got the credit he deserves. He's been a phenomenal player for many years. It's very hard to do that. I don't think he's dipped. He's been very consistent."

    Golden State's foot-dragging probably cost the Nets a few victories. The Nets made the same offer two months ago, "but they didn't get the first-round pick or players they were looking for," Thorn said. "So they called (yesterday) to open discussions again."

    The Nets also used about half of their $10.27 million trade exception in acquiring Robinson, so they have around $4.98 million remaining that they can still use in another deal. But Thorn said, "I do not think we'll use it."

    They acquired the huge exception in the Kerry Kittles deal last summer by sending his salary to the Clippers and not receiving any players in return, which entitles them to the extra fund that can be used in transactions for one year from the date of the trade.

    Guess they weren't going to use the cap expemtion anyway. Also interesting to note the testimonials from other players.

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    they defienatly gave up too much for the OLD GUY!

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    Originally posted by JetMan55@Feb 15 2005, 08:13 PM
    they defienatly gave up too much for the OLD GUY!
    Try and follow the thread. The fact is they gave up practically nothing. 2nd rounders rarely find a roster spot and they weren't going to use the exemption. Freebie. He may be ancient, but the Nets have been hurting for bodies.

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    Originally posted by JumbalayaJet+Feb 15 2005, 09:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JumbalayaJet &#064; Feb 15 2005, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JetMan55@Feb 15 2005, 08:13 PM
    they defienatly gave up too much for the OLD GUY&#33;
    Try and follow the thread. The fact is they gave up practically nothing. 2nd rounders rarely find a roster spot and they weren&#39;t going to use the exemption. Freebie. He may be ancient, but the Nets have been hurting for bodies. [/b][/quote]
    sure CHAMP&#33;

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    Originally posted by JetMan55@Feb 16 2005, 08:37 PM
    sure CHAMP&#33;
    I can see by your sig that the circus is coming soon. Have fun in MSG.

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