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    [url=http://www.thedailyaztec.com/news/864053.html]http://www.thedailyaztec.com/news/864053.html[/url]

    America: land of ruling fascists?
    By Veronica Rollin, Staff Writer
    Published: Tuesday, February 15, 2005


    We've all studied Nazi Germany sometime during school. We answered textbook review questions; we watched Schindler's List or Swing Kids. Those of us who were even slightly mentally involved with what we were learning probably asked ourselves, "What would we do in such a situation?"

    I hope you've answered this question ladies and gentlemen, because you are in such a situation. Yes - you read that right. The nation that led the fight against the fascists of Europe has become fascist itself.

    According to the article in Free Inquiry magazine,"Fascism Anyone?" by Lawrence Britt, there are 14 characteristics of fascism. The first is "powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism." In Hitler's Germany, everything had a swastika on it. Everything - ID cards, offices, classrooms, the walls of buildings.

    Since Sept. 11, 2001, we have plastered flags on our backpacks, our cars and even our houses. Every politician on television, as well as most journalists, have a flag pin on his or her lapel. There seem to be more flags in an American parking lot than at an international border crossing.

    The second characteristic is a "disdain for the importance of human rights." Josef Goebbels' Nazi propaganda painted torture victims as vermin, rats and traitors who deserved to die. This type of propaganda is one answer as to why Germans could easily ignore the smell of burning flesh in their backyards.

    When the Abu Ghraib scandal broke, many Americans thought the torture was not so bad because the prisoners supposedly deserved it. The media had painted Iraqi insurgents in such an inaccurate and negative light that most people no longer felt they even deserved to be treated like human beings.

    "Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause" is listed as the third characteristic. For the Germans, as we know well, the scapegoats were the Jews who were blamed for every problem Germany had.

    For us, that scapegoat is now the Arab-Muslim community. We're so convinced of the Arab terrorist stereotype that Arabs have become the only ones targeted in the war on terrorism. They are the only ones who have been sent to Guantanamo Bay. They are the only ones targeted by the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System - a discriminatory immigration policy. They are the only ones who have to go to great lengths to prove their love for this country.

    The remaining 11 of Britt's fascist characteristics are "supremacy of the military, rampant sexism, a controlled mass media, obsession with national security, religion and ruling elite tied together, power of corporations protected, power of labor suppressed, disdain and suppression of intellectuals, obsession with crime and punishment; rampant cronyism and corruption and fraudulent elections." I'll let you think about these for yourself.

    Britt, however, concludes the United States exhibits every single one of the 14 qualities of a fascist state - and I, for one, agree.

    Nazi Germany didn't become a fascist state until after the Reichstag building was burned down. It was this wanton act of destruction and the following fear campaign that opened the door to everything the regime is infamous for - the Gestapo, the Schutzstaffel (SS) and the Holocaust.

    Since Sept. 11, the federal government has turned a tragedy into an excuse to hack away at the Bill of Rights. It is its excuse for the privacy-violating Patriot Act; it is its excuse for discriminatory immigration policies. It is its excuse for torture at Guantanamo Bay.

    Fascist states grow out the exploitation of popular fear, which siphons away civil liberties. We can prevent it by rejecting the notion that we must give up our freedoms in order to protect them. Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." History tells us they get neither as well.



    -Veronica Rollin is a political science sophomore.



    -This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of The Daily Aztec. Send e-mail to [email]letters@thedailyaztec.com[/email]. Anonymous letters will not be printed - include your full name, major and year in school.

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    Jeez, all of this hatred towards liberals has gotten me to think that I MUST be a moderate, because there is no way in Hell I am at all linked towards what conservatives CONSIDER TO BE a liberal.

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    Funny how "intellectuals" twist things to form their own agenda's.....here's Lawrence Britt's 14 characteristics BS article:

    [url=http://demon.twinflame.org/002887.php]http://demon.twinflame.org/002887.php[/url]

    Seems you could claim many of these things happened in America during WWII if you look at it.....another dumb ass with too much time on his hands.

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    Yeah, there are facists amongst us, but they are of the hard left

    Tammy Bruce is a feminist {Preisdent of the LA chapter of NOW for 8 years}, democrat, open lesbian, and pro abortion ... and even she sees the true facists amongst us

    [b]Only Conservatives Can Save Academic Freedom

    Tammy Bruce

    Tuesday, Dec. 2, 2003[/b]

    Most of you are aware of the disintegration of the intellectual discourse on our college campuses. David Horowitz in particular continues his extraordinary work to expose and reverse the disaster leftist academics are making of our universities.

    One of the many benefits of my work is that I get to go speak directly to the Stepford Undergraduates who arrive at college as eager and excited freshman and walk out cynical, brainwashed Leftists. They embrace the multiculturalism, moral relativity and hatred of America that their Marxist and Socialist professors have instilled in them for years.

    Because I am a Democrat and a feminist, you would think it would be the women's groups, or the feminist clubs, or the College Democrats that would be inviting me to speak. But of course not.

    No, the young people supposedly keeping the flame for freedom of expression and new ideas, and who are obsessed with “diversity,” are far too busy clamping down on the people who exhibit that pesky intellectual freedom let alone be expected to actually bring one of “them” (i.e., someone who dares to challenge them) to campus.

    I shouldn’t have been surprised, but in my effort to be able to be heard on campuses it was the conservative wing of American politics that exhibited a true commitment to intellectual diversity and freedom of expression. The College Republicans and the Young America’s Foundation, America’s largest campus outreach program for the Conservative Movement, have been the sponsors of my most recent speaking engagements – at Roger Williams University and Mt. Holyoke.

    The bright lights out there on our campuses are indeed the conservative students, who are truly committed to principles and values. Because of this, they are willing to face the risk, punishment, name-calling and even threats to their personal safety because they dare to be different. They dare to stand up for what is right. They dare to be College Republicans.

    My speaking experience at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island was classic. The College Republicans there, led by Jason Mattera, Jedediah Jones and Monique Stuart, had awakened the campus to real political and intellectual diversity with the publication of their conservative newspaper, The Hawk’s Right Eye.

    Prior to inviting me to campus, the club had been called a “hate group” by members of the administration, funds for their newspaper had been frozen, graffiti on the campus compared them to the Hitler Youth (of course) and at least one member has had to deal with threats to her personal safety.

    All in all, not unusual experiences for campus conservatives.

    There was the typical harassment by the campus police of students trying to promote my speech. In a coordinated effort to stop promotion of the event, two young men who were chalking an announcement about my speech on a walkway were stopped and interrogated by campus police.

    In a clever move, after being told by the police that they had orders to stop any activity of the College Republicans, the young men said they were with the Gay Pride group on campus. Only then were they allowed to continue.

    While this demonizing of the club prior to my arrival was indeed typical, it remains disturbing. At many of my speeches, in an effort to put into context the wholesale and thoughtless demonizing of campus conservatives, I ask students to do a simple word switch in their heads. Every time they are inclined to say something negative about a conservative or Republican student, they should replace the word “conservative” and/or “Republican” with the word “Jew.”

    My point is that the harassment, both intellectual and personal, faced by conservative students and faculty is beginning to mirror the oppression of Jewish students and academics in 1930s Germany. Dehumanizing takes repetition and a mob mentality fostered by trusted leadership. It also requires individuals to stop thinking for themselves.

    I exhort these same students to own why they think what they think. I’ve asked and most of them honestly admit they don’t know why conservatives are “bad” or if their “Hitler Youth” comparisons are true. They were simply told so by a professor they trusted.

    Ultimately, these students must face the fact that they have been personally betrayed by professors and other academics who don’t really care about them at all and have misled them on a whole host of issues, and most probably about everything political.

    The event itself at Roger Williams University went extremely well, and was actually quite inspiring. I spoke for an hour or so, and then we opened it for questions. I also agreed to stay for as long as the students wanted. We finally left at midnight, 4-5 hours after we had begun.

    One young woman shifted from being the Angriest Student in the World and Tammy Hater to asking thoughtful, sincere questions. One young man at the end came up to me and said, “I was holding this sign outside at the beginning of your speech. I wanted you to see it and to tell you that I was wrong, and am ashamed for having done it. Thank you for being here.” The sign read “This Event Sucks.”

    I was moved close to tears by his sincerity and the realization that even with nonstop brainwashing, if young people are exposed to ideas which strike them as true and fair, they will hear us.

    I also saw a familiar look on the faces of some of them. It was a look of realization that perhaps they have not been told the entire truth by adults they trusted. There was a glimpse of understanding that their favorite professor, or the president of the university, and even their own judgment about political matters, needed to be questioned and challenged.

    One question I was asked more than once was why in the world would the Republicans of all people on campus ask me (classical liberal, Democrat, feminist) to come speak. Many of the liberal students were truly perplexed. And that was their first lesson.

    I had the pleasure of explaining that the foundation commitment to freedom of expression and new ideas rests at the heart of the colleagues they had been condemning all along. That conservatives and conservative politics might actually be beneficial for women, blacks and gays in this country.

    Make no mistake – this is no longer about differences of political opinion. This is indeed about life and death, totalitarianism versus freedom, and intellectual freedom versus the imprisonment of the mind. It has become a fight for the hearts and souls of the generations to come. It is a fight classical liberals and conservatives dare not lose.

    The hope of this change rests with the work of David Horowitz and his Center for the Study of Popular Culture, the young Republicans and conservative Democrats on campuses everywhere who will not be intimidated into silence, and the Young America’s Foundation, which is committed to changing the catastrophic course designed by malevolent and destructive Leftist academics.

    Support them wherever and whenever you can. Our future literally depends on it.

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    BTW, for the young dems on this board who easily dismiss anything that comes from a republican {like me}, and are more apt to listen to the opinions of a fellow democrat who is willing to think for herself, I would strongly advise you read the writings of Tammy Bruce ... we are not in agreement on all matters, but she is an independant thinker whom I respect ... much like Camile Paglia, she is a classical liberal who sees the NEW LEFT/LEFT ELITE {or as she describes it, the malignant narcissism/malignant narcissists} as a complete perversion of the ideals she once stood for ... she actually describes what the left has degenerated into as Rosemary's Baby, something that started out wonderful but has produced something deformed and hedious

    Again, Tammy Bruce is a self-described democrat, classical liberal, pro abortion, and openly lesbian feminist who was the President of the LA chapter of NOW for eight years ... not exactly Dr. James Dobson, if you catch my drift

    But she is also a brilliant and independent thinker who dares to think outside the box others have chosen for her ... who dares to challange the orthadoxy of the hard left and all it has become ... and a woman who loves her country and is not ashamed to say it out loud

    Anyway, if you are a democrat and you dare to have your own preceptions about politics and the culture challanged by a fellow democrat who may in-turn challange you yourself to think and re-think all you have learned, below is a link to her archived columns ... they are pretty interesting to say the least

    [url=http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/authors.asp?ID=191]Tammy Bruce archives[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by New England Hick[/i]@Feb 15 2005, 06:03 PM
    [b] We've all studied Nazi Germany sometime during school. We answered textbook review questions; we watched Schindler's List or Swing Kids. [/b][/quote]
    Swing Kids? SWING KIDS?! :lol:

    Veronica, are you outta your f*cking mind?! Nobody, I mean [i]NOBODY[/i] watched that stupid @ss movie.

    Jesus Christ, stop the planet STOP THE FU**ING PLANET AND [b]LET ME OFF![/b]

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    Okay, I haven't seen a single journalist/op-ed columnist jailed for speaking out against Bush's policies, yet we're a nation of fascists. Good thing this chick is in college. It'll take her a few years to get straightened out when she joins the real world.

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    The first article in this thread is about the dumbest thing I've ever read, starting with the first premise that flag waving= fascism. NOT.

    Only demented idealogues would characterize patriotism as having to be fascism.
    And patriotism in the wake of suffering the worst attack on US soil since Pearl harbor is a healthy thing.

    I won't waste time ripping apart the rest of that article, other than to say the paper it was printed on isn't worthy of wiping my ass.

    The epiphany I had tonite after seeing that another university cancelled that colorado idiot's speaking engagement, was that the far left in the 60s was a grassroots, under the radar, underground, anti-mainstream movement. The present day lunatic fringe is attempting to use mainstream media to spread decidedly false messages, and they are getting ripped a new one.

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    Someone should tell this misguided young lady {no doubt misguided by her marxist professors} that Hitler was a leftist

    Whoa ... did I just say that ... did I just call Hitler a leftist?????

    Yes, you heard me correctly ... aside from his racist ideology, Hitler and the Nazi Party had much in common with modern day western leftist politics {leftist politics, not classical democrat/liberal politics}, as is also the case with Mussolini's form of fascism and fascism in general ... FAR MORE than it can ever have in common with modern western conservatism

    Australian scholar John Ray has done some of the best work at exposing this lie ... the one that seeks to align conservatism with fascism ... and in turn has learned that the opposite is true, that the fascism of the 1930's and 40's is far more closely aligned with the modern leftist politics of the west

    [url=http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/]John Ray's homepage ... Hitler was a leftist[/url]

    [url=http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1226]John Ray ... What is a leftist?[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Green Jets & Ham[/i]@Feb 15 2005, 11:43 PM
    [b] Someone should tell this misguided young lady {no doubt misguided by her marxist professors} that Hitler was a leftist

    Whoa ... did I just say that ... did I just call Hitler a leftist?????

    Yes, you heard me correctly ... aside from his racist ideology, Hitler and the Nazi Party had much in common with the modern western leftist politics {leftist politics, not classical democrat/liberal politics}, as is also the case with Mussolini's form of fascism and fascism in general ... FAR MORE than it can ever have in common with modern western conservatism

    Australian scholar John Ray has done some of the best work at exposing this lie ... the one that seeks to align conservatism with fascism ... and in turn has learned that the opposite is true, that the fascism of the 1930's and 40's is far more closely aligned with the modern leftist politics of the west

    [url=http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/]John Ray's homepage ... Hitler was a leftist[/url]

    [url=http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1226]John Ray ... What is a leftist?[/url] [/b][/quote]
    from politicalcompass.org:


    [img]http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/axeswithnames.gif[/img]

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    JF80, instead of believing some chart that offers no explanation for it's findings, why not check out John Ray who lays out the facts in great detail, then tell me if fascism is more closely aligned with todays leftist or conservative politics of the west?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Green Jets & Ham[/i]@Feb 15 2005, 11:59 PM
    [b] JF80, instead of believing some chart that offers no explanation for it's findings, why not check out John Ray who lays out the facts in great detail ... then tell me if fascism is more closely aligned with todays leftist politics of the west or the right? [/b][/quote]
    OK, then go to the site whose URL i provided and check out their explanation. Deal?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Jetsfan80+Feb 16 2005, 12:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Jetsfan80 @ Feb 16 2005, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Green Jets & Ham[/i]@Feb 15 2005, 11:59 PM
    [b] JF80, instead of believing some chart that offers no explanation for it&#39;s findings, why not check out John Ray who lays out the facts in great detail ... then tell me if fascism is more closely aligned with todays leftist politics of the west or the right? [/b][/quote]
    OK, then go to the site whose URL i provided and check out their explanation. Deal? [/b][/quote]
    You Got it my friend ... deal ;)

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Jetsfan80+Feb 16 2005, 12:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Jetsfan80 @ Feb 16 2005, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Green Jets & Ham[/i]@Feb 15 2005, 11:59 PM
    [b] JF80, instead of believing some chart that offers no explanation for it&#39;s findings, why not check out John Ray who lays out the facts in great detail ... then tell me if fascism is more closely aligned with todays leftist politics of the west or the right? [/b][/quote]
    OK, then go to the site whose URL i provided and check out their explanation. Deal? [/b][/quote]
    JF80, you&#39;ll never believe where I came up on that chart after taking the test ... same spot as Pope John Paul :D

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    Uh, Nazi stood for national [i]socialism[/i], so just because you&#39;d like to call them a right wing loons doesn&#39;t make it so. Taking whole popluations and either putting them in slave labor or just killing them is about as "collectivist" as it gets. And that Hitler/Stalin Pact is a matter which liberals have never come to terms with. When both saw fit to look the other way, they both agreed to cut up Poland.That part of history tends to get left out in the glorious history of Soviet Russia, doesn&#39;t it?

    As far as calling Bush a Nazi or some such nosnes, seems like most of these loons aren&#39;t in jail or under hosue arrest. By all means, let us know whent hey haul nutballs Ward Churchhill or Nick "a thousand Mogadishus" DeGenova off in the middle of the night. Further, W just inexplicably loosened immigartion polcies again, just after declining to hire an extra 2000 border patrol agents. frankly, I&#39;m missing this whole police state you lefties pretend is all around us.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by New England Hick[/i]@Feb 15 2005, 06:03 PM
    [b] [url=http://www.thedailyaztec.com/news/864053.html]http://www.thedailyaztec.com/news/864053.html[/url]

    America: land of ruling fascists?
    By Veronica Rollin, Staff Writer
    Published: Tuesday, February 15, 2005


    We&#39;ve all studied Nazi Germany sometime during school. We answered textbook review questions; we watched Schindler&#39;s List or Swing Kids. Those of us who were even slightly mentally involved with what we were learning probably asked ourselves, "What would we do in such a situation?"

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    This is a D paper at best. I wrote better essays then this in 8th grade.

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    Classic case of some clueless dingbat writing a paper simply to get a grade. I&#39;m sure her effort went over brilliantly with her equally clueless professor -- regardless of the ridiculously lazy way she gives up on the paper in mid-stream : "yeah, there are 11 more definitions, but I&#39;ll just let you think about those yourself."?? :lol: BLAHHAHAHAH :lol: AHAHAHAAAAHHH&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: Holy crap, what a glowing intellectual...

    This twit must be real rough on the eyes, because if she wasn&#39;t she could have saved herself the effort and just thrown the prof a hummer.

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    you guys realize you are bashing an article written by an 18-21 year old girl, right?

    where is the Daily Aztec? San Diego State? you could take a piss on your SAT answer sheet and still get into San Diego State :lol:

    she&#39;s not a "lib" - she&#39;s a babe in the woods - pointing out how wrong she is - that&#39;s pointless at best. At worst it&#39;s grandstanding - why don&#39;t i find an article written by an 18 year old attending Oral Roberts University and start a thread "oh my god the CONS are comparing Bush to Jesus"

    cmon We all know college kids can&#39;t tell their ear from their a**hole.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Feb 16 2005, 11:06 AM
    [b] you guys realize you are bashing an article written by an 18-21 year old girl, right?

    where is the Daily Aztec? San Diego State? you could take a piss on your SAT answer sheet and still get into San Diego State :lol:

    she&#39;s not a "lib" - she&#39;s a babe in the woods - pointing out how wrong she is - that&#39;s pointless at best. At worst it&#39;s grandstanding - why don&#39;t i find an article written by an 18 year old attending Oral Roberts University and start a thread "oh my god the CONS are comparing Bush to Jesus"

    cmon We all know college kids can&#39;t tell their ear from their a**hole. [/b][/quote]
    actually I bashed the "intellectual" who was the original source as you can tell he is an ignorant moron, and probably a liberal-leftist, who cherry picked what he wanted from the 1930&#39;s-40&#39;s and obviosuly never paid attention to what was going on here in America.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Feb 16 2005, 11:06 AM
    [b] you guys realize you are bashing an article written by an 18-21 year old girl, right?

    where is the Daily Aztec? San Diego State? [b]you could take a piss on your SAT answer sheet and still get into San Diego State[/b] :lol: [/b][/quote]
    LOL&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol:

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