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    Bush breaks the record for the most vacation days as a US President

    Today Bush broke Reagans modern day record for the most vacation days as a US President, Reagan set the record with 335 days during his 8 year tenure as Bush DEMOLISHED the record by reaching his 336th day in only his 5th year with 2 more weeks set to go on his current vacation..

    Congratulations President Bush!!!

    Bushs Daughters are hosting a party for him after he gets back from a full day of golfing and fishing

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    [B]Government Auditor Finds Just 3 Recent Clinton Trips Cost $72 Million

    Clinton's Foreign Travel:
    Excessive or Abusive?? [/B]

    The President's foreign travel is well reported, but its costs are largely unavailable. Because this president has set records as the most traveled president in American history, three U.S. Senators requested the government's official auditor to examine some of the recent travel expenses he has incurred. Senate Republican Policy Committee Chairman Larry Craig, and Senators Jeff Sessions and Craig Thomas last year requested the General Accounting Office (GAO) to examine the costs of just three recent foreign trips taken by President Clinton in 1998 -- his travel to Chile, China, and to six countries in Africa. The results of this study, released today by GAO, suggest that Clinton's travel has gone past the level of excessive to that of abusive.

    Just those three trips cost the American taxpayer at least $72 million -- with the Africa trip alone accounting for $42.8 million. Not only did they seriously affect the taxpayer's wallet, these three trips seriously affected America's defense. Fully 84 percent of the $72-million price tag came from the DOD budget. For example, the cost per hour to fly Air Force One, the president's personal plane, is $34,400. Of course, the $72-million price tag paid for a lot more than just flying President Clinton. It also paid for 297 military missions largely for the ferrying back and forth of some 2,400 people and necessary equipment working -- sometimes months in advance -- to assure smooth travel for the President. The trip to Africa alone involved 10 advance trips by military planes and the travel of 904 DOD personnel -- the equivalent of a U.S. Army battalion. [Note that GAO generally defines a "mission" as including either a round-trip flight between the home base and the foreign destination, or travel that includes multiple flight segments, such as from points A to B to C and back to A.]

    As costly as the tab for these three presidential trips is, it does not measure the full cost to the taxpayer. GAO did not tabulate the additional costs of President Clinton's security out-of-country -- these were not requested for security purposes. Neither were the agency planning expenses included. Nor did GAO add in the cost of paying the military and other personnel who accompanied or prepared the way for President Clinton (despite the economic fact that these personnel would have been doing some other job if not on travel). Rather, only the additional, or "incremental," cost that the President's travel entailed is represented by the GAO figures. It is, then, by any description a conservative estimate.

    At the same time that President Clinton was using the Pentagon as his personal travel agent, he was also cutting back its budget. Every year he has been in office, President Clinton has cut the military budget. Simultaneously, he has broadened the military's role beyond the traditional one of defending America to peacekeeping and "nation building."

    It is not an exaggeration to say that President Clinton's travel has been excessive: he already holds countless records for presidential foreign travel -- Most Countries Visited (59), Total Foreign Travel Days (186), and Most Days of Foreign Travel Per Year (27.6). A synopsis of GAO's report follows.

    Africa: March 22 through April 2, 1998

    President Clinton visited Ghana, Uganda, Rwanda, South Africa, Botswana, and Senegal. Ten separate advance trips were required over a three-month interval and 1,300 individuals traveled either with or in support of President Clinton. According to GAO, "the purpose of the trip was to (1) help reshape the way Americans think about Africa; (2) show U.S. support for emerging democracies; (3) promote U.S. investment, trade, and economic growth in Africa; (4) promote education; and (5) promote conflict resolution and human rights."

    While "promote U.S. investment, trade, and economic growth in Africa" and "promote education" were stated goals of the trip, not one official from the Department of Education and just three people from the Department of Commerce traveled to Africa. Those who did make the trip included 205 members of the Executive Office of the President.

    DOD spent about $37.7 million in support of the trip. DOD flew 98 airlift missions and 110 aerial refueling missions, transported 13 Army and Marine Corps helicopters, established at least four separate maintenance support teams, and established temporary medical evacuation units in five countries. DOD sent 904 of the 1,302 people who traveled to Africa and paid 88 percent of the trip's $42.8 million cost.
    Chile: April 16 through April 20, 1998

    President Clinton visited Chile (according to GAO) "to attend the second Summit of the Americas and hold bilateral meetings with the President of Chile . . . . Agenda items at the summit included a discussion of the establishment of a Free Trade Area of the Americas, the promotion of democracy, and the eradication of poverty in the Americas."

    While "the eradication of poverty in the Americas" was a major objective of the trip, just one person from (Agency for International Development) A.I.D. traveled to Chile. At the same time, 109 members of the Executive Office of the President made the trip.

    "Five advance teams of State, White House, Secret Service, and/or DOD officials made five trips from November 1997 through April 1998 to prepare for the President's arrival."

    DOD sent 193 of the 592 people who traveled to Chile and paid $8.8 million of the trip's $10.5 million cost -- 84 percent. DOD's expenses included 24 airlift missions and nine aerial refueling missions.
    China: June 25 through July 3, 1998

    The GAO reports that President Clinton visited China "to conduct bilateral talks with the President of China and for other purposes. . . .Issues discussed were security, nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction, economics and trade, energy and environment, science and technology, and law enforcement."

    While "economics and trade" and "energy and environment" were agenda items, just two people from the Department of Energy and just nine from the Department of Commerce traveled to China -- along with 186 members of the Executive Office of the President.

    Even more interesting is that while "law enforcement" was also an agenda item, not a single individual from the Department of Justice accompanied the President. In contrast, when law enforcement was on the Chile agenda, the Attorney General herself and 13 other individuals from the Department of Justice traveled there.

    "Eight separate teams from the State Department, White House, Secret Service, and/or DOD made advance trips to Beijing, Xi'an, Shanghai, Guilin, and Hong Kong from April 1998 through June 1998." DOD sent 123 of the 510 people who traveled to China and paid 74 percent ($14 million) of the trip's $18.8 million cost. DOD's expenses included 36 airlift missions and 7 aerial refueling missions.
    More Trips: "Never found a place in the world he wouldn't want to go."

    And more to come: According to the Associated Press (Terence Hunt; 9/7/99), President Clinton will make his fifth presidential trip to Canada on October 8, and "a four-nation swing just before Thanksgiving to Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, and Italy."

    Next year will be just as scenic for the President. "The hottest speculation is that he will visit Vietnam, a place he struggled to avoid when he was draft-age," reports Hunt. China is also a possibility, as "aides note that the president told the Chinese women's soccer team he would like to go to China again." The President has visited (by RPC's count) 59 different countries and territories (many of them more than once), but new to his "Places I've Visited" list mentioned as possibilities by the Associated Press would be India, Pakistan, Brunei, Kosovo and Antarctica, as well as Vietnam, Turkey, Greece and Bulgaria. To date the President's record of 186 foreign travel days is more than double that of any other U.S. president. [RPC has available a set of charts detailing Clinton's travel: see RPC's "Excessive Clinton Travel Tab = Taxpayer Abuse," 9/21/99. Note that we compare days and countries traveled to among other presidents, but GAO is unable to prepare a cost estimate of travel of previous administrations for comparison purposes.]

    The Associated Press story included a candid quote from presidential counselor Doug Sosnik: "This is a guy that has never met an idea that he doesn't like, never met a person who's not interesting and never found a place in the world he wouldn't want to go." As the GAO study shows, he also never met a tab he didn't want the taxpayer to pick up.

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    What person in their right mind would vacation in Crawford, Texas
    Oh sorry...

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    [QUOTE=HBJETFANBOB]What person in their right mind would vacation in Crawford, Texas
    Oh sorry...[/QUOTE]

    Its not a vacation. He clears brush, and ignores intelligence memos like "Bin Laden determined to strike inside US." He doesn't need to be in Washington, he "thinks" about things really really hard and all the time. Give the guy a break.

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    [QUOTE=Section109Row15]Its not a vacation. He clears brush, and ignores intelligence memos like "Bin Laden determined to strike inside US." He doesn't need to be in Washington, he "thinks" about things really really hard and all the time. Give the guy a break.[/QUOTE]

    speaking of ignoring intelligence (reports, not memos that is) or in this case, obstructing it and blocking it totally:

    [QUOTE]The Pentagon has launched an investigation to determine whether Clinton administration lawyers blocked a military intelligence unit code named Able Danger from sharing with the FBI critical information on Mohamed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers a year before the 9/11 attacks.

    "Because this happened in a previous administration, the Pentagon right now is trying to get their hands around what actually happened and who was involved," Rep. Curt Weldon told ABC Radio host Sean Hannity on Thursday.

    Weldon said that Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, the Able Danger team member who came forward this week, "had a good meeting with [Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence] Stephen Cambone and Gen. Schwartz on Monday where they really laid it out." "Secretary Cambone told him - 'Look, we need to know what really happened here because this all happened in a previous administration and so we don't know all the details,'" Weldon said.

    Lt. Col. Shaffer, who also spoke with Hannity on Thursday, confirmed the Pentagon investigation, saying: "There's good progress being made at the Pentagon to try to confirm what I'm saying. I'm very hopeful that a lot more of this - the truth is going to come out very soon."

    Asked if he knew whether the lawyers who blocked Able Danger's intelligence on Atta were Clinton appointees or holdovers from a previous administration, Lt. Col. Shaffer said:

    "I don't [know]. And that's one of the mysteries which now, both the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice are probably going to have to look at; to figure out exactly who these people were and what the nature of their contacts were."

    Asked whether his Able Danger team ever had contact with Jamie Gorelick, who served as general counsel at the Pentagon before becoming deputy attorney general in 1994, Shaffer said, "Not that I recall. I do recall some of the lawyers names and she was not one of them."

    "Most of the lawyers we dealt with would not have been at that level," he explained.


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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]speaking of ignoring intelligence (reports, not memos that is) or in this case, obstructing it and blocking it totally:[/QUOTE]

    There is no proof that Clinton had any knowledge of that whereas there is video of Bush recieving the Intelligence Report.

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]
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    If I remember that picture correctly, it was because President Clinton kept his doogie treats in the inside of this pocket

    there are no explanations for these photo's other then Bush has some sexual fetish with turkeys

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    [QUOTE=Section109Row15] and ignores intelligence memos like "Bin Laden determined to strike inside US." [/QUOTE]
    Wow. Take your head out of your butt and read a little.

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    [QUOTE=Section109Row15]There is no proof that Clinton had any knowledge of that whereas there is video of Bush recieving the Intelligence Report.[/QUOTE]


    wrooonnngggg aggaiiinnnn:

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    [B]In Final Clinton Days, a Chance to Attack Bin Laden Was Rejected

    Sep 13, 2001
    By John Solomon
    Associated Press Writer[/B]

    WASHINGTON (AP) - In the waning days of the Clinton presidency, senior officials received specific intelligence about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and weighed a military plan to strike the suspected terrorist mastermind's location. [B]The administration ultimately opted against an attack. [/B]

    [B]The information spurred a high-level debate inside the White House in December 2000 about whether the classified information provided the last best chance for President Clinton to punish bin Laden before he left office, the officials said. [/B]

    Now nine month later, officials are discussing the incident as bin Laden's name increasingly is being connected with Tuesday's suicide attacks in New York and Washington.

    Some in Congress have expressed anger that the United States has not been able to put bin Laden more on the defensive in Afghanistan with military strikes after years of intelligence linking him to global acts of terrorism against Americans.

    "We should have put bin Laden on the defensive so he would be thinking about how we are going to get him rather than him plotting massive terrorist plots," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said.

    Officials said the Clinton administration in its closing months reviewed several opportunities to possibly strike at bin Laden, but never felt they had enough information to risk such an operation.

    "There were a couple of points, including in December, where there was intelligence indicative of bin Laden's whereabouts. But I can categorically tell you that at no point was it ripe enough to act," former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger told The Associated Press.

    Officials said the December meeting was the most pointed in a series of discussions over several months. Several officials familiar with the debate said top military and national security officials convened in the White House to discuss the options.

    One individual familiar with the discussions, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the meeting was prompted by "eyes-on intelligence" about bin Laden's whereabouts - a term used to indicate a human or satellite spotting.

    According to officials:

    -Military officials presented a possible military strike option, and the pros and cons were debated.

    -Among the concerns voiced was whether the intelligence wasn't already stale given bin Laden's tendency to move quickly and go into hiding. There also was discussion of possible collateral damage if such an attack occurred.

    [B]-Ultimately, [SIZE=5]the president [/SIZE] and aides decided not to strike. Berger and one other official said military officials never made a formal recommendation to proceed with the attack. [/B]

    "There was never a recommendation from the Pentagon," Berger said.

    Military strikes were aimed at bin Laden once before. After U.S. embassies were bombed in Africa three years ago, Washington retaliated with a missile attack in August 1998, sending more than 70 Tomahawk cruise missiles into eastern Afghanistan targeting training camps operated by bin Laden.

    The U.S. attacks killed about 20 followers but bin Laden escaped unhurt. Since then he has been forced by Afghanistan's Taliban rulers to stop giving interviews and making statements.

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]wrooonnngggg aggaiiinnnn:[/QUOTE]

    You are posting two seperate incidents. I was talking about the able danger crap which was in your post.

    [i][b]Asked if he knew whether the lawyers who blocked Able Danger's intelligence on Atta were Clinton appointees or holdovers from a previous administration, Lt. Col. Shaffer said:

    "I don't [know]. And that's one of the mysteries which now, both the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice are probably going to have to look at; to figure out exactly who these people were and what the nature of their contacts were."

    Asked whether his Able Danger team ever had contact with Jamie Gorelick, who served as general counsel at the Pentagon before becoming deputy attorney general in 1994, Shaffer said, "Not that I recall. I do recall some of the lawyers names and she was not one of them."

    "Most of the lawyers we dealt with would not have been at that level," he explained.[/b][/i]

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    Wow you guys love to ***** about everything. Honestly, will you ever be happy?

    Come Back to NY, I give you credit for replying to all of these guys. Sadly, you speak the "evil conservative capitalist heartless" language which these libs will never understand.

    Contrary to popular liberal belief, as much as you guys ***** and moan, the election results will not change.

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    [QUOTE=Jetsin05]Today Bush broke Reagans modern day record for the most vacation days as a US President, Reagan set the record with 335 days during his 8 year tenure as Bush DEMOLISHED the record by reaching his 336th day in only his 5th year with 2 more weeks set to go on his current vacation..
    [/QUOTE]

    Only 336 days of vacation in 5 years? Our political vermin clock up that amount in half the time.

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    [QUOTE=Section109Row15]You are posting two seperate incidents. I was talking about the able danger crap which was in your post.

    Asked if he knew whether the lawyers who blocked Able Danger's intelligence on Atta were Clinton appointees or holdovers from a previous administration, Lt. Col. Shaffer said:

    "I don't [know]. And that's one of the mysteries which now, both the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice are probably going to have to look at; to figure out exactly who these people were and what the nature of their contacts were."

    Asked whether his Able Danger team ever had contact with Jamie Gorelick, who served as general counsel at the Pentagon before becoming deputy attorney general in 1994, Shaffer said, "Not that I recall. I do recall some of the lawyers names and she was not one of them."

    "Most of the lawyers we dealt with would not have been at that level," he explained.[/QUOTE]


    Of course "Able Danger" is crap....we should call it "the 9-11 Enabler" instead...so I assume you have no problem on the story posted from 9/13/2001 ? (Of course Atta/OBL/Al Queda- there was no connection and none of its' tied in).

    unlike yourself I back up my posts with proof....where can we find the following:

    [QUOTE]There is no proof that Clinton had any knowledge of that whereas there is [B]video[/B] of Bush recieving the Intelligence Report.[/QUOTE]

    or do I have to see a michael moore-on movie??

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    someone posts an anti Bush post.

    Rather than address the subject of post, CBNY posts an anti-Clinton post.

    someone posts another anti Bush post.

    CBNY repeats.

    just another day in the JI political forum.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]someone posts an anti Bush post.

    Rather than address the subject of post, CBNY posts an anti-Clinton post.

    someone posts another anti Bush post.

    CBNY repeats.

    just another day in the JI political forum.[/QUOTE]

    The topic of the thread was Presidential vacations.

    ....once again someone comes to bash President Bush providing no factual evidence

    .....once again I've come with facts in hand to educate the liberal masses

    ....once again bitonti stands on the side of rhetoric void of fact

    ....just another day on the JI political forum
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 08-20-2005 at 01:13 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Section109Row15]Its not a vacation. He clears brush, and ignores intelligence memos like "Bin Laden determined to strike inside US." He doesn't need to be in Washington, he "thinks" about things really really hard and all the time. Give the guy a break.[/QUOTE]
    besides, with these things called telephones and fax machines, its not like he NEEDS to be in washington everyday.

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    [QUOTE]....once again someone comes to bash President Bush providing no factual evidence[/QUOTE]

    What are you talking about? The title of this post is that Bush Breaks the Record for most vacation days as a US President. This is a fact. Are you denying that this is true?

    You respond by posting an article about how much Cinton spent on his trips. What does that have to do with the number of vacation days?????

    The only thing you ever do on this board is reply by bashing Clinton, even when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You are an asset to us on the left, because by never defending an attack on the Right you confirm what we know is the truth. Thanks CBTNY

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7]What are you talking about? The title of this post is that Bush Breaks the Record for most vacation days as a US President. This is a fact. Are you denying that this is true?

    You respond by posting an article about how much Cinton spent on his trips. What does that have to do with the number of vacation days?????

    The only thing you ever do on this board is reply by bashing Clinton, even when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You are an asset to us on the left, because by never defending an attack on the Right you confirm what we know is the truth. Thanks CBTNY[/QUOTE]


    Durrrrrr Monica kerrri got a blow job ffrom bill klinton heinz

    durrrrrrr

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    SACKDANCE


    Man you are scary!

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