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    Someone convince me America is not lost

    It only took three days to blame Bush for an act of God.

    People are shooting at helicoptors during the relocation effort from the Superdome to the Astrodome.

    There is no excuse for the rampant looting. What is going on in NO is an embarrassment to the entire Country. We blew the crap out of Afghanistan and Iraq and those people behaved better (that may be an exaggeration).

    Still no word from other world "powers."

    Thank God for charitable organizations like the Red Cross, and others to keep my faith.

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    [QUOTE=jetswin]It only took three days to blame Bush for an act of God.

    People are shooting at helicoptors during the relocation effort from the Superdome to the Astrodome.

    There is no excuse for the rampant looting. What is going on in NO is an embarrassment to the entire Country. We blew the crap out of Afghanistan and Iraq and those people behaved better (that may be an exaggeration).

    Still no word from other world "powers."

    Thank God for charitable organizations like the Red Cross, and others to keep my faith.[/QUOTE]

    I'd relax...

    While I agree with your comment on the looting (it is very tough to feel sorry for animals stealing TV's they may not be able to watch for a long, long time) you are jsut seeing the worst...because it sells papers and gets TV ratings. There are plenty of good things happening- there are just a sidenote. (Though Sackdance's e-mail is frightening).

    I'm watching CNN now and the reporters are a disgrace- they purposely draw negatives out of people and get the answers they want.

    Australia, Canada, Germany have all offered help and relief...the Pope sent a telegram and asked people worldwide to pray for the victims...

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    Superdome exodus on hold after shots
    Looting worse, more National Guard arrive; storm deaths may be thousands

    NEW ORLEANS - National Guard troops in armored vehicles poured into New Orleans on Thursday to curb the growing lawlessness that included shots fired at a helicopter airlifting people out of the Superdome and carjackings of buses helping with evacuations.

    The operation to bus more than 20,000 people to the Houston Astrodome was suspended “until they gain control of the Superdome,” said Richard Zeuschlag, head of Acadian Ambulance, which was handling the evacuation of sick and injured people from the Superdome.

    He said that military would not fly out of the Superdome either because of the gunfire and that the National Guard told him that it was sending 100 military police officers to gain control.
    “That’s not enough,” Zeuschlag. “We need a thousand.”

    He said medics were calling him and crying for help because they were so scared of people with guns at the Superdome.

    Shots were fired at a military helicopter over the Superdome before daybreak, he said, adding that when another evacuation helicopter tried to land at a hospital in the outlying town of Kenner overnight, the pilot reported that 100 people were on the landing pad, and some of them had guns.

    “He was frightened and would not land,” Zeuschlag said.

    Reinforcements called in
    An additional 10,000 National Guard troops from across the country were ordered into the Gulf Coast to shore up security, rescue and relief operations. The new units brought the number of troops dedicated to the effort to more than 28,000, in what may be the largest military response to a natural disaster.

    Looting has also been a problem in Mississippi.

    “The truth is, a terrible tragedy like this brings out the best in most people, brings out the worst in some people,” said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on NBC’s “Today” show Thursday. “We’re trying to deal with looters as ruthlessly as we can get our hands on them.”

    Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, meanwhile, said one problem is that “we have an ongoing flood situation even as we’re in the middle of recovering from the hurricane.”

    “We’re in a position where there are additional people we have to look for,” he told “Today.” “We’re hoping to get the most people out as we can in the next 12 hours and 24 hours, but we’re going to continue to search until we’re sure we’ve got everybody safe.”

    New Orleans police focus on looters
    In New Orleans, Mayor Ray Nagin on Wednesday night ordered the city's 1,500 police officers to leave their search-and-rescue mission and focus on stopping the looting.

    Looters and armed gangs “are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas — hotels, hospitals and we’re going to stop it right now,” Nagin said.

    Looters used garbage cans and inflatable mattresses to float away with food, blue jeans, tennis shoes, TV sets — even guns. The driver of a nursing-home bus surrendered the vehicle to thugs after being threatened.

    Police were asking residents to give up any firearms before they evacuated neighborhoods because officers desperately needed the firepower: Some officers who had been stranded on the roof of a hotel said they were shot at.

    Nagin called for an all-out evacuation of the city’s remaining residents. Asked how many people died, he said: “Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands.”

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    What I am trying to understand is people are complaining that there is no help, then they shoot at the help. :huh:

    btw, not surprised that Australia was one of the first to try and help, they have been good allies. Germany and Canada, it makes you feel better. Where is the Muslim world? Specifically the Saudis????

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    Today's Post said W got a call from Abdullah in Saudi Arabia and Queen Elizabeth offering condolences. There's a rumor that SA will increase production to stabilize oil prices. Silence from the rest of the world. :(

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    I guess the rest of the world is enjoying the pain that the USA is experiencing right now. How is the behavior taking place by certain NOLA residents any different than that of insurgents in Fallujah?

    World stunned as US struggles with Katrina
    Sep 02 10:08 AM US/Eastern


    By Andrew Gray

    LONDON (Reuters) - The world has watched amazed as the planet's only superpower struggles with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with some saying the chaos has exposed flaws and deep divisions in American society.

    World leaders and ordinary citizens have expressed sympathy with the people of the southern United States whose lives were devastated by the hurricane and the flooding that followed.

    But many have also been shocked by the images of disorder beamed around the world -- looters roaming the debris-strewn streets and thousands of people gathered in New Orleans waiting for the authorities to provide food, water and other aid.

    "Anarchy in the USA" declared Britain's best-selling newspaper The Sun.

    "Apocalypse Now" headlined Germany's Handelsblatt daily.

    The pictures of the catastrophe -- which has killed hundreds and possibly thousands -- have evoked memories of crises in the world's poorest nations such as last year's tsunami in Asia, which left more than 230,000 people dead or missing.

    But some view the response to those disasters more favorably than the lawless aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

    "I am absolutely disgusted. After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, as he watched a cricket match in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

    "Not a single tourist caught in the tsunami was mugged. Now with all this happening in the U.S. we can easily see where the civilized part of the world's population is."

    SINKING INTO ANARCHY

    Many newspapers highlighted criticism of local and state authorities and of President Bush. Some compared the sputtering relief effort with the massive amounts of money and resources poured into the war in Iraq.

    "A modern metropolis sinking in water and into anarchy -- it is a really cruel spectacle for a champion of security like Bush," France's left-leaning Liberation newspaper said.

    "(Al Qaeda leader Osama) bin Laden, nice and dry in his hideaway, must be killing himself laughing."

    A female employee at a multinational firm in South Korea said it may have been no accident the U.S. was hit.

    "Maybe it was punishment for what it did to Iraq, which has a man-made disaster, not a natural disaster," said the woman, who did not want to be named as she has an American manager.

    "A lot of the people I work with think this way. We spoke about it just the other day," she said.

    Commentators noted the victims of the hurricane were overwhelmingly African Americans, too poor to flee the region as the hurricane loomed unlike some of their white neighbors.

    New Orleans ranks fifth in the United States in terms of African American population and 67 percent of the city's residents are black.

    "In one of the poorest states in the country, where black people earn half as much as white people, this has taken on a racial dimension," said a report in Britain's Guardian daily.

    Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people.

    "You see in this example that even in the 21st century you need the state, a good functioning state, and I hope that for all these people, these poor people, that the Americans will do their best," he told reporters at a European Union meeting in Newport, Wales.

    David Fordham, 33, a hospital anesthetist speaking at a London underground rail station, said he had spent time in America and was not surprised the country had struggled to cope.

    "Maybe they just thought they could sit it out and everything would be okay," he said.

    "It's unbelievable though -- the TV images -- and your heart goes out to them."

    (With reporting by Reuters bureaux around the world)

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    I lived in England for two years.

    Believe me, Europeans know which Americans are doing the looting, etc, and which are not.

    Looks like Somolia.

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