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    U.S. troops find chemical weapon in Tal Afar stronghold

    [B]U.S. troops find chemical weapon in Tal Afar stronghold: U.S. commander derides enemy’s ‘unscrupulous’ actions

    By Jeff Schogol, Stars and Stripes
    Pacific edition, Thursday, September 15, 2005[/B]

    ARLINGTON, Va. — While taking down the insurgent stronghold of Tal Afar, U.S. troops discovered a crude chemical weapon, the commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment said Tuesday.

    The troops had just entered a building when their ears and throats started to burn, said Army Col. H.R. McMaster in a briefing to reporters.

    U.S. forces determined insurgents had rigged the chemicals to explosives, McMaster said, though he did not identify the type of chemical.

    “We evacuated the civilians from the area and we demolished that building without a hazard to the people,” McMaster said.

    He said several families were living near the building, suggesting insurgents intended to detonate the chemical weapon to harm them and blame it on coalition forces, he said.

    McMaster hailed operations in Tal Afar as a major success against an “unscrupulous” enemy.

    “They are some of the worst human beings on the face of the Earth, and there is no real greater pleasure for us than to kill or capture these individuals,” he said.

    In recent operations in the Tal Afar area, U.S. forces killed and captured hundreds of terrorists who had taken over the city and ruled by terror, McMaster said.

    McMaster called the insurgents “unscrupulous.” In one incident, insurgents killed a boy and then put a bomb inside his body and detonated it when his parents came along, he said.

    Tal Afar’s residents recognized the insurgents for the thugs they are and provided U.S. and Iraqi forces with critical intelligence, McMaster said.

    “The people are sick and tired of this violence, of this enemy, and they are very grateful for our efforts and the Iraqi efforts particularly to rid them of this enemy,” he said.

    Another element in the successful operation was the Iraqi security forces, which served as a capable backup for U.S. troops, McMaster said.

    “These Iraqi soldiers are brave, they’re courageous, they’re building capabilities every day and we are drawing strength from their example,” he said.

    Still, the Iraqi security forces are not yet able to conduct operations on their own, and coalition forces do not have enough troops to secure Tal Afar, McMaster said.

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    interesting - I wonder when they say "crude chemical weapon" does that mean it was one of saddam's WMD or something a terrorist created on the fly since the regime change??

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    Was this an Iraqi chemical weapon or some device rigged by insurgents using hosehold cleaners? It doesn't really say. Also does anyone else think that imploding the building is not necessesarily the best mitigation strategy?

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    Probably some really strong salsa.

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    [QUOTE]Still, the Iraqi security forces are not yet able to conduct operations on their own, and coalition forces do not have enough troops to secure Tal Afar, McMaster said.[/QUOTE]

    This is a real detriment to successfully prosecuting the war.

    As a couple of us mentioned in bit's poll thread, there should be more of an overwhelming presence to run the table on these azzholes.

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    [QUOTE=Jetcane]This is a real detriment to successfully prosecuting the war.

    As a couple of us mentioned in bit's poll thread, there should be more of an overwhelming presence to run the table on these azzholes.[/QUOTE]


    the powell doctrine was thrown out the window when the Administration
    were in the rush to war.

    That's how ignorant Bush administration has been. Colin Powell has a military doctrine named after him specifically dealing with this situation and he's on the President's staff ...

    unfortunately it is not something Bush's other aides want to hear the man gets forced out, but not before he has to present baldfaced lies to the UN Security Council, and they wipe their collective asses with his Doctrine.

    and he's not the only one

    Bremer thought he needed more troops - he was fired.
    Generals Zinni and McCrystal said 300,000 was about right - they were marginalized.

    who would have thought that Rumsfeld and Cheney were wrong about matters of war? i mean they are such geniuses -

    how many military doctrines have been named after Cheney?

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY][B]

    McMaster called the insurgents “unscrupulous.” In one incident, insurgents killed a boy and then put a bomb inside his body and detonated it when his parents came along, he said. [/B]
    [/QUOTE]

    hey CBNY that's a heartwarming tale now isn't it? :eek:

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    Rumsfeld has really disappointed me with his prosecution of this war. No doubt. His stock was very high at one time, and now he is in the back room. Didnt he offer his resignation once or twice?

    There is evidently internal disharmony with the strategies.

    But, what I never forget, no matter how divisive politics has become, is this:

    [QUOTE]McMaster hailed operations in Tal Afar as a major success against an “unscrupulous” enemy. "They are some of the worst human beings on the face of the Earth, and there is no real greater pleasure for us than to kill or capture these individuals,” he said.[/QUOTE]

    and that's The Truth, IMHO.

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