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    QB OPTIONS & THEIR STAT HISTORY - MCCOWN, CARR, RAMSEY, SCHAUB,

    JOSHN MCCOWN

    Comments: Seems to be fearless, mentally tough given Greens lack of faith in him, BUT PRONE TO THE INT. This guy throws too many ints with the weapons on offense, EVEN WITH THE HORRIBLE offensive line.
    THAT SAID, He did have a 400 yd game and 350 game this year, completing 60% of passes albeit with 4 INts. Hi completion percentage in spite of his o-line tells me the ints might be courtesy of constant pressure.

    Bottom Line: I would give up a 3rd for this guy.


    DAVID CARR

    Comments: At 6' 3", 230 he has the size and with all the pounding this guy takes IS DURABLE unlike the CHAD. Has completed 60% this year and last and with an o-line I say this guy could be very good in NY.

    Bottom Line: Contract he might want may make deal undoable in 06 because of cap. If deemed possible I would put the full court press on this guy as he will be released most likely. If the Texans hold out for a pick, give up a 2nd and don't look back. He is my third option behind Volek and Schaub.

    PATRICK RAMSEY

    Comments: He had a solid year in 2004 with a high completion percentage. If he comes here he must be the starter from day one or don't bother. I think he is a little fragile mentally. I'd give up a 3rd for this guy.

    MATT SCHAUB - THIS GUY HAS ALL THE TANGIBLES AND SMARTS TO BE A STAR

    Comments: 6' 5", 237 with a cannon for an arm and brains to go with it. This guy should be starting in Atlanta and unless Haslett decides to hold on to this guy or asks for too much MARK IT DOWN SHAUB will go somewhere and be an up and coming star in the Carson Palmer mold.

    Bottom Line: GO GET THIS GUY HERM!!!!!!!!!!!!! This guy is gonna be for a long time. If Volek is not available he is next on the wish list.


    BILLY VOLEK - GOOD MEASURABLES AT 6' 2" 220, 60%+ CP, OPTION #2 FOR OFFSEASON

    Comments: This guy seems to have the size, arm and capability to flourish in Dingers system. Far as I'm concerned this is the guy if he is available. BUT AS WE HAVE NOTED he most likely will not be avail.

    Botton Line: If he is avail I would gladly take a chance and fork over a #1 for this guy. With Volek we hit the ground and start running.

    So to Recap:

    Option #1 - Volek; Will hit the ground running in Dingers Offense.

    Option #2 - Schuab; Will Be A Uncoming Star in The Carson Palmer Mold Some Day

    Option #3 - David Carr; Measurables, Completion Percentage @ 60% tell me what it tells everyone else - This guy needs weapons and O-LINE help

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    Out of those guys, I like Carr and Shaub.

    It's unlikely the Falcons would want to give up Shaub.


    Does any of this QB talk really matter when the O-line is playing like the Houston Texans' O-line? Probably wouldn't be an attractive move for Carr. After living on his *** for the past few years, I'm sure he wants to go somewhere where he'll be protected.

    If we have the same O-line next year, might as well play Chad or Feidler.

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    Patrick Ramsey:

    26 Years Old. 4th Year
    31 Games
    471 for 847 (55.6%)
    5475 Yards
    33 TD
    29 INT
    74.1 Lifetime Rating

    Billy Volek:

    29 Years Old, 6th Year
    20 Games
    262 for 430 (60.9%)
    3031 YArds
    22 TD
    12 INT
    87.7 Lifetime Rating

    David Carr:

    26 Years Old, 4th Year
    49 Games
    764 for 1338 (57.1%)
    8857 Yards
    38 TD
    46 INT
    72.4 Lifetime Rating

    Josh McCown:

    26 Years Old, 4th Year
    30 Games
    411 for 717 (57.3%)
    4523 Yards
    20 TD
    23 INT
    72.1 Lifetime Rating

    Matt Schaub:

    24 Years Old, 2nd Year
    12 Games
    56 for 119 (47.1%)
    667 Yards
    4 TD
    4 INT
    61.9 Lifetime Rating


    Average Game for Each Player:
    Ramsey = 15 for 27 for 176 Yards, 1.06 TD, 0.93 INT
    Volek = 13 for 22 for 152 YArds, 1.1 TD, 0.60 INT
    Carr = 16 for 27 for 180 Yards, 0.77 TD, 0.93 INT
    McCown = 14 for 24 for 151 Yards, 0.66 TD, 0.76 INT
    Schaub = 5 for 10 for 56 Yards, 0.33 TD, 0.33 INT

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
    This guy should be starting in Atlanta and unless Haslett decides to hold on to this guy

    ??????? Don't you mean Jim Mora?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet
    ??????? Don't you mean Jim Mora?
    OOPS, yeah. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish
    Patrick Ramsey:

    26 Years Old. 4th Year
    31 Games
    471 for 847 (55.6%)
    5475 Yards
    33 TD
    29 INT
    74.1 Lifetime Rating

    Billy Volek:

    29 Years Old, 6th Year
    20 Games
    262 for 430 (60.9%)
    3031 YArds
    22 TD
    12 INT
    87.7 Lifetime Rating

    David Carr:

    26 Years Old, 4th Year
    49 Games
    764 for 1338 (57.1%)
    8857 Yards
    38 TD
    46 INT
    72.4 Lifetime Rating

    Josh McCown:

    26 Years Old, 4th Year
    30 Games
    411 for 717 (57.3%)
    4523 Yards
    20 TD
    23 INT
    72.1 Lifetime Rating

    Matt Schaub:

    24 Years Old, 2nd Year
    12 Games
    56 for 119 (47.1%)
    667 Yards
    4 TD
    4 INT
    61.9 Lifetime Rating


    Average Game for Each Player:
    Ramsey = 15 for 27 for 176 Yards, 1.06 TD, 0.93 INT
    Volek = 13 for 22 for 152 YArds, 1.1 TD, 0.60 INT
    Carr = 16 for 27 for 180 Yards, 0.77 TD, 0.93 INT
    McCown = 14 for 24 for 151 Yards, 0.66 TD, 0.76 INT
    Schaub = 5 for 10 for 56 Yards, 0.33 TD, 0.33 INT
    So FISH, what should we conclude per these stats? I would say since we are talking about all young QBS, this year and last are relevant and the priors are not. So lifetime stats are not a good indicator for the future IMO.

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    I like Schaub, but I doubt Atlanta, with Vick's inability to stay on the field, will deal him.

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    I've mentioned him on the board a few times over the past month, but he doesn't seem to be acknowledged when we talk about possible QB's to be traded for/drafted/signed, etc.

    John Kitna in Cincy. Guy was solid in Seattle and great starting for the bengals before Carson was drafted and took over. I feel he is worth a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
    So FISH, what should we conclude per these stats? I would say since we are talking about all young QBS, this year and last are relevant and the priors are not. So lifetime stats are not a good indicator for the future IMO.
    You should conclude whatever you wish. I report, YOU decide!

    But seriously, I offer them only as what they are, stats. They are worth only whever value the reader gives to stats. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Rivers for Abraham makes the most sense.We can`t keep abe without blowing up most of the team,but we can deal him,saving 8 mil cap hit and add Rivers who will cost us about 1 mil against the cap.7 Mil savings,and counting.

    John Abraham is attractive to the Jets because he`s a Pass rusher.He`s horrible against the Run,because he never stays in his gap.

    Why is it,that they say if you can`t stop the run,or run the Ball yourself,you won`t win.

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