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    Fallout in Miami from the Jets Victory

    I just got back from Europe on Sunday just in time to hear that the Jets devastated the Dolphins.

    Listening to the radio shows down here yesterday, one would get the impression that the Dolphins lost the game they should have won with commentary like "the Jets are terrible", "we made them look good", etc.
    Even Peter King, interveiwed yesterday by Dan LeBatard kept on concentrating on the fact of "how can you give up 40 points to the Jets; the Jets!". He even indirectly slighted Mangini by declaring in effect that Lane Kiffin and Mike Tonlin the best head coaches in their 30's that he has ever met.

    The consensus is that the game's result broke the spirit of the team. Apparently there was sentiment that the team's performance of the past two weeks signalled improvement that almost guaranteed a victory against the Jets.

    The loss probably broke the morale of the team as well according to the media. Some players implied that they were ambivalent about the future of the Cameron regime:

    Whether Cameron wants to believe it or not, all of his players aren't buying into his message. In the locker room after Sunday's game, cornerback Will Allen made it clear that he doesn't.

    'When it boils down to it, they say `team game, team game, team game,' but this really is an individual game,'' Allen said. ``I worry about myself. I don't worry about [Cameron's job security] much.''


    Some criticized the regime indirectly:

    Taylor pointed out that former coach Nick Saban went out of his way to develop a relationship with him, knowing he was respected by his teammates.

    ''He turned the team over to veterans, and we ended up rallying around him even when things went poorly,'' Taylor said.

    [Cameron is}..`` trying to establish his program and his way of doing things.''

    ''It definitely doesn't seem like we're all after the same thing,'' Traylor said, while Holliday noted that, ``it felt like the wheels fell off the wagon.''
    Yet, Cameron stated that he has detected no dissention from the players:

    ...Cameron has yet to acknowledge any of the same sentiment. He remained hopeful, even optimistic, that he would keep his team fighting for a victory rather than fighting one another.
    Source Link:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/614/story/331119.html

    In sum, the media seems to consistently underrate the Jets, overestimate the Dolphins and feel that our victory on Sunday was somehow undeserved or stolen. It really is interesting to see how the pundits and senior sages of the sports world react when the results diverge from their preconceptions or narratives.

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    Thanks,gives a little perspective...

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    True That^^^^^

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    Cameron is in over his head with this team, but its hard when you have such an old team and you fall apart like this to make it work. These are all really Dave Wannstedts guys and they tolerated Saban because he won in his first year and more or less blamed Daunte Culpepper in year 2. Now its a third coach that isnt winning at all and they have no allegiance to him at all. Im sure the players also think the whole Ginn and Beck instead of Quinn move was a bad move too. Miami needs to gut that team completely.

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    EFFF Miami.... a winless season couldn't happen to a better set of guys.

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    Let them stink.

    With our troubles, we need the two gimme's next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrium View Post
    I just got back from Europe on Sunday just in time to hear that the Jets devastated the Dolphins.

    Listening to the radio shows down here yesterday, one would get the impression that the Dolphins lost the game they should have won with commentary like "the Jets are terrible", "we made them look good", etc.
    Even Peter King, interveiwed yesterday by Dan LeBatard kept on concentrating on the fact of "how can you give up 40 points to the Jets; the Jets!". He even indirectly slighted Mangini by declaring in effect that Lane Kiffin and Mike Tonlin the best head coaches in their 30's that he has ever met.

    The consensus is that the game's result broke the spirit of the team. Apparently there was sentiment that the team's performance of the past two weeks signalled improvement that almost guaranteed a victory against the Jets.

    The loss probably broke the morale of the team as well according to the media. Some players implied that they were ambivalent about the future of the Cameron regime:





    Some criticized the regime indirectly:






    Yet, Cameron stated that he has detected no dissention from the players:



    Source Link:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/614/story/331119.html

    In sum, the media seems to consistently underrate the Jets, overestimate the Dolphins and feel that our victory on Sunday was somehow undeserved or stolen. It really is interesting to see how the pundits and senior sages of the sports world react when the results diverge from their preconceptions or narratives.

    That Peter King would say this is not surprising. He is the number one Patriots kiss up, so him slighting the Jets (and Mangini) is not a surprise.

    As for Miami, they need to realize that when you are winless, no game is a given and that their is no such thing as 'giving a game away' (especially when you lose by 27). They are 0-12 for a reason and at this point it would be a mild surprise if they don't finish 0-16.

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    Let's see how the fat windbags King and the other slob of south Florida sports Hank Goldberg handle the Fish going 0-16 in a year their precious 72 team could lose their record....Should be fun!

    You'll be hearing the trailer trash calling the shows blaming the Jets fans and all the New Yawkers down there.

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    Cam Cameron did a terrible job coaching Indiana Univ....what the hell made anyone think he was anything more than a coordinator in the NFL????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Come Back to NY View Post
    Cam Cameron did a terrible job coaching Indiana Univ....what the hell made anyone think he was anything more than a coordinator in the NFL????
    He couldnt win football games at Indiana. Wow. I mean that place practically recruits players on its own. If you cant win football games at Indiana i dont know how you expect to win anywhere else. Jeesh. How could they not see this coming. A blind dog could coach INDIANA to win football games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32green View Post
    Let them stink. With our troubles, we need the two gimme's next year.
    And we have a winner here folks. Next season's opponents aside from our division rivals will be against Denver, KC, Arizona, St. Louis, Oakland, San Diego, SanFran & Seattle. Doesn't really look like a cup cake schedule to me so yes, I'll take all the gimme's we can get too.

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    That Miami job was just one of those coaching opputunities you should pass on. No QB, very old, D, poor WR, just a very poor, old team. The 2 best players on the team are guys Jimmie Johnson brought in!! But to go 0-16 is horrid, there is no reason you shouldn't win a game, just 1 game.

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    Ha, good. Now they'll go 0-16, and I'll laugh and laugh.

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    Of course the Dolphins should have beaten us. The FACT that they have been pathetic for the last decade is meaningless. The FACT that they had lost 15 of 19 to the Jets going into Sunday is meaningless. The FACT that they were starting a midget, 26-year-old rookie QB who hasn't led his team on a TD drive yet is meaningless. The FACT that they were starting their 4th RB this season is meaningless. The FACT that they have absolutely no talent on offense and are older than dirt on defense is meaningless. The FACT that every Jets-Dolphins game in Miami is more like a Jets home game is meaningless.

    None of the FACTS that clearly pointed to a Jets victory mean anything. The Dolphins went undefeated 35 years ago. That means something.

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    Bottom line Wayne isn't spending the money on the franchise. They need a big time coach and he doesn't want to go for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009fatman View Post
    Bottom line Wayne isn't spending the money on the franchise. They need a big time coach and he doesn't want to go for the money.
    What "bigtime" coach is actually available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkweather View Post
    EFFF Miami.... a winless season couldn't happen to a better set of guys.
    QFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klecko73isGod View Post
    What "bigtime" coach is actually available?
    He's on the CBS pre game show.
    For the right price I'm sure they could get him. Cowher is a big time coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009fatman View Post
    He's on the CBS pre game show.
    For the right price I'm sure they could get him. Cowher is a big time coach.
    Cowher's going to Carolina. Not really available. And I'm not sure how well he'll do without Whisenhunt and LeBeau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Come Back to NY View Post
    Cam Cameron did a terrible job coaching Indiana Univ....what the hell made anyone think he was anything more than a coordinator in the NFL????
    yes and i'll take it one step further and say look at their recent draft picks, they did this to themselves.

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