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Thread: Not Chad, Not Kellen . . .

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    Ainge will make waves, and cimini will try to make it a controversy, but Mangini is in "career saver mode", so he'll go penny or clemens if he clearly outperforms chad in the pre-season games. (Sorry, OTA's are only a half notch above a game of catch at a picnic)

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    Yes, another Chad Kellen thread. Now we just need Sourcecheese with his noodles jokes and we can close this one as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    Yes, another Chad Kellen thread. Now we just need Sourcecheese with his noodles jokes and we can close this one as well.
    Did you read the article?

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    I like Ainge a lot, but considering his finger injury (he's not even throwing yet) and his need to put on at least 15 lbs. to take an NFL pounding--not to mention mastering the playbook, improving his mechanics, etc.--we should all pray we don't see him before 2009 at the earliest.

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    ratiff had a better mini camp then ainge

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    Quote Originally Posted by samwise View Post
    but Mangini is in "career saver mode", so he'll go penny or clemens
    Agreed. The only way we see Ainge this year is if we're out of contention and both QB's are hurt. And based on how long it took Mangini to go to Clemens last year, I'm not so sure about that either.

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    Definetly can see this kid being the Jets starting QB somewhere down the line. We'll see throughout training camp and Preseason games what his game is like. To early to tell right now.

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    They have one quarterback, Chad Pennington, who can win ball games, but who cannot throw the ball more than 20 yards. They have another, Kellen Clemens, who has a rocket arm, but whose brain operates as if a rocket exploded in it.
    Made me LOL

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    Chellen?

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    oh my god, the most popular qb is always the new guy. Kellen didnt really have much to work with last year, so lets not say hes not the guy so fast. why is everyone so down on him? after starting half a season, were already done with him? if you keep switching qbs after the guy doesnt show everything within his first year is a sure way to never get anywhere.

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    Will Erik Ainge Be the New York Jets' Quarterback this Season?

    by Jonathan Szenics (Contributor)

    June 17, 2008

    Let's face it; the New York Jets' quarterback situation is not of the greatest quality at the current time, and it is nothing to celebrate either.

    They have one quarterback, Chad Pennington, who can win ball games, but who cannot throw the ball more than 20 yards. They have another, Kellen Clemens, who has a rocket arm, but whose brain operates as if a rocket exploded in it.
    Finally, they have a fifth-round draft pick, one Erik Ainge, who was selected mainly because there was nothing to lose with the pick.

    If he ends up being a great quarterback, then the Jets made one of the best picks of the draft. If he ends up being nothing special, then who cares? Just release him and move on.

    Right now though, the Jets cannot afford to be careless with their picks. They are at a point in their franchise's history, where if a few moves do not pay off, then they will not be a contender for years.

    Knowing this, they spent an incredible amount of money to get free agents on the team, such as Alan Faneca, Calvin Pace, and Tony Richardson.

    In addition, they drafted Vernon Gholston with the sixth overall pick in the draft, hoping that he would become the next version of Lawrence Taylor.

    With all of these factors in mind, many of the weaknesses have been eliminated. Thomas Jones has a solid fullback in Richardson to run behind and a vastly improved offensive line ahead of him as well.

    The defense has plugged many holes together as well, with the signing of Pace and the trade for defensive tackle Kris Jenkins, which will make the team much harder to run on than in previous seasons.

    Finally, Kerry Rhodes is locked up in a long-term deal, and as long as he is around, the secondary will at least keep plays ahead of them.

    But what about the quarterback, the most important position on the field?

    To many, it seems as if the Jets have ignored this need. Many people see this as a sign of many different egos getting in the way.

    The team doesn't want to admit that it dropped the ball with Pennington's contract. They do not want to admit that Clemens probably is not the long-term answer, considering he was a second-round pick just a few years ago.

    As a result, they took a guy in the fifth round of the draft, just in case neither one ends up being the answer at quarterback.

    The real question is though: Will Erik Ainge be the Jets' quarterback by the end of the season?

    The answer is yes, for better or worse. Ainge did come from Tennessee, where one Peyton Manning played his college ball. He also has two stellar seasons under his belt going for him.

    At the same time though, the pressure of New York may be too much for Ainge to handle. He is going to have to quickly learn how to deal with it.

    Why?

    First, Pennington will either play to a level where the fans will be booing him off the field, even if he is limping from injury, as they so brutally did last year, or he will get injured somehow yet again.

    Second, Clemens will again prove that he is not the man to take over for the Jets. With the system that the team runs, making the right reads is a must, and he does not have the mental makeup to run the team to the level that it has to be run at. He probably never will either.
    This leaves Ainge as the man for the job by default. Will he succeed? Only time will tell, but by the end of the year, or hopefully sooner so that Ainge has some games under his belt, he will be the man.

    Let's just hope that he does not lose any games for the team, and let's hope that his teammates do most of the work, which could lead to a playoff spot. Even though, unfortunately, the playoffs seem just out of reach at the current time, considering that the AFC is such a tough conference to play in right now.
    This guy doesn't like Clemens very much.

    The article just stinks. It's one big opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianNY View Post
    oh my god, the most popular qb is always the new guy. Kellen didnt really have much to work with last year, so lets not say hes not the guy so fast. why is everyone so down on him? after starting half a season, were already done with him? if you keep switching qbs after the guy doesnt show everything within his first year is a sure way to never get anywhere.
    I just posted the article to show differing perspectives on the Jets QB situation. I have no idea what, if anything, the author actually knows about the Jets. Relax, the only people on this board who have reached a conclusion about Clemens is the Chad gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simijet View Post
    Did you read the article?
    Sure he did.

    All it said was...Chad Chad Chad...on and on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simijet View Post
    I just posted the article to show differing perspectives on the Jets QB situation. I have no idea what, if anything, the author actually knows about the Jets. Relax, the only people on this board who have reached a conclusion about Clemens is the Chad gang.
    yea, it was nothing against you, im just sick of the media busting on clemens when he hasnt even really had a chance yet

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    Will Erik Ainge Be the New York Jets' Quarterback this Season?

    by Jonathan Szenics (Contributor)

    June 17, 2008

    They do not want to admit that Clemens probably is not the long-term answer, considering he was a second-round pick just a few years ago.

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    Second, Clemens will again prove that he is not the man to take over for the Jets. With the system that the team runs, making the right reads is a must, and he does not have the mental makeup to run the team to the level that it has to be run at. He probably never will either.
    This guy must be some sort of genius. He can completely evaluate the career potential of QBs after only 8 regular-season games. It's stunning to me that he's not a high-level scout in an NFL front office.

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    This is one of the dumbest articles I have ever read.

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    http://bleacherreport.com/users/25594-Jonathan-Szenics

    Yeah, I really care what this ****ing guy thinks... he might as well be a poster here.

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    i signed up just so i could set the guy straight. my post has kyle written next to it.

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    Reading between the lines of the article, Shotty Jr. has to go. With a solid OL and a QB with a solid arm we don't need the worlds most complicated O. It's time to beat on the opposition rather than try and fool them. Clemens should not be running an O that is designed for a QB that can't throw the football to fool the opposition in a 10 yard area between the hash marks.

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