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    Notes on the Jets (from being at the game)

    1. The Jets playcalling is completely baffling. Their love of the 5 wide set makes no sense, especially on 3rd and short plays. It tells other teams that they won't run and it makes it harder to complete a pass. When they needed a short run, they got it every time when they ran, however, run that 5-wide set on 3rd and 2 from the Chiefs 8 yard line almost cost them the game. Complete and utter stupidity.

    2. Brett Favre was horrible. Never mind the INTs include that god-awful pick-6. There were 2 or 3 other balls that should have been picked off, including one that would have been of Chiefs TD. Too often when he gets rushed he just heaves the ball down field without any idea of where it's going or who it's going to. Yes, this is part of his mystique. But it can be a killed, and almost essentially ended the Jets season
    2A) This is an addendum to that. The idea that Pennington would be 5-2 or better with this team might be true (though I don't believe so). However, the Jets weren't going to win a Super Bowl with Pennington. Pennington still has trouble beating good defenses, and if the Jets were down in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs, they would have lost with Pennington at QB, because he never comes back. Even if Favre does fail with the Jets, I'm still glad they took a shot. The Jets have spent 7 years not beating good defenses and not scoring when they need a late TD with Pennington.

    3) There were a few offensive playcalls I did like. One that jumps out was the Brad Smith end around pass. No, it didn't work. Yes, the Chiefs were ready for it. But just the idea of it being in the Jets playbook was a good thing makes a big difference in the long run.

    4) The defense. 2 weeks against rookie QBs (or essentially rookies) and 0 forced turnovers. That's completely unacceptable from this defense. In the past I had said that I thought people were overvaluing how often the Jets should blitz. But, there's no excuse not to pressure rookie QBs into making mistakes. That being said, the defense did turn it up when it was needed. After the Chiefs field goal on the 1st drive of the 2nd half, they had 3 straight 3 and outs. That's what the defense should have been doing all along, but it was still nice to see the defense make some plays

    5) Justin Long is a funny dude. The Jets Chick had a Q&A that they showed on the board. He said (not an exact quote) his favorite player was Pat Leahy because Justin was a skinny white kid in Ct. and he could relate to him. Then she asked him something about what the Jets needed to do to make the playoffs and he said, "Steroids". The girl didn't know what to do. Very funny.

    6) Favre is clearly not on the same page with his receivers, it becomes more and more obvious every week. This is especially true with Cotchery, at least 2x a game Favre expects Cotchery to go in one direction and Cotch goes in a complete other direction. This has led to a few INTs and needs to be fixed.

    7) Lost in the haze of bad coaching and bad QBing was that awful play on a fantastic punt by Hodges. He placed it down inside the 5 and the Jets special teamers somehow couldn't keep the ball (and themselves) out of the endzone. That's a play that just shouldn't happen.

    Despite all of this, the Jets are still 4-3. Yes, they played 3 truly ****ty teams in a row, but if they can hang with Buffalo on the road and pull out a win, they are in great shape for the rest of the season. Despite what some people are saying, the Jets shouldn't pull Favre and the season isn't over yet.

    However some major improvements do need to happen on both the offensive, defensive, and coaching areas for the Jets to make a 2nd half run. Remember everyone, the season is not even halfway in, and the Jets are 4-3. Not all is lost yet.

    Special note: There was a guy that was so sloppy drunk that his friend couldn't even get him on to the bus to Secaucus. Let's hope our friend "Dave" woke up from his drunken stupor and had another beer. The whole front of the bus was cheering him on. Good times.

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    Excellent write up bro and totally in agreement with you.

    Justin Long's a Jet fan? I didn't know that.

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    Nice read Batman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmans A Scientist View Post
    1. The Jets playcalling is completely baffling. Their love of the 5 wide set makes no sense, especially on 3rd and short plays. It tells other teams that they won't run and it makes it harder to complete a pass. When they needed a short run, they got it every time when they ran, however, run that 5-wide set on 3rd and 2 from the Chiefs 8 yard line almost cost them the game. Complete and utter stupidity.

    2. Brett Favre was horrible. Never mind the INTs include that god-awful pick-6. There were 2 or 3 other balls that should have been picked off, including one that would have been of Chiefs TD. Too often when he gets rushed he just heaves the ball down field without any idea of where it's going or who it's going to. Yes, this is part of his mystique. But it can be a killed, and almost essentially ended the Jets season
    2A) This is an addendum to that. The idea that Pennington would be 5-2 or better with this team might be true (though I don't believe so). However, the Jets weren't going to win a Super Bowl with Pennington. Pennington still has trouble beating good defenses, and if the Jets were down in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs, they would have lost with Pennington at QB, because he never comes back. Even if Favre does fail with the Jets, I'm still glad they took a shot. The Jets have spent 7 years not beating good defenses and not scoring when they need a late TD with Pennington.

    3) There were a few offensive playcalls I did like. One that jumps out was the Brad Smith end around pass. No, it didn't work. Yes, the Chiefs were ready for it. But just the idea of it being in the Jets playbook was a good thing makes a big difference in the long run.

    4) The defense. 2 weeks against rookie QBs (or essentially rookies) and 0 forced turnovers. That's completely unacceptable from this defense. In the past I had said that I thought people were overvaluing how often the Jets should blitz. But, there's no excuse not to pressure rookie QBs into making mistakes. That being said, the defense did turn it up when it was needed. After the Chiefs field goal on the 1st drive of the 2nd half, they had 3 straight 3 and outs. That's what the defense should have been doing all along, but it was still nice to see the defense make some plays

    5) Justin Long is a funny dude. The Jets Chick had a Q&A that they showed on the board. He said (not an exact quote) his favorite player was Pat Leahy because Justin was a skinny white kid in Ct. and he could relate to him. Then she asked him something about what the Jets needed to do to make the playoffs and he said, "Steroids". The girl didn't know what to do. Very funny.

    6) Favre is clearly not on the same page with his receivers, it becomes more and more obvious every week. This is especially true with Cotchery, at least 2x a game Favre expects Cotchery to go in one direction and Cotch goes in a complete other direction. This has led to a few INTs and needs to be fixed.

    7) Lost in the haze of bad coaching and bad QBing was that awful play on a fantastic punt by Hodges. He placed it down inside the 5 and the Jets special teamers somehow couldn't keep the ball (and themselves) out of the endzone. That's a play that just shouldn't happen.

    Despite all of this, the Jets are still 4-3. Yes, they played 3 truly ****ty teams in a row, but if they can hang with Buffalo on the road and pull out a win, they are in great shape for the rest of the season. Despite what some people are saying, the Jets shouldn't pull Favre and the season isn't over yet.

    However some major improvements do need to happen on both the offensive, defensive, and coaching areas for the Jets to make a 2nd half run. Remember everyone, the season is not even halfway in, and the Jets are 4-3. Not all is lost yet.

    Special note: There was a guy that was so sloppy drunk that his friend couldn't even get him on to the bus to Secaucus. Let's hope our friend "Dave" woke up from his drunken stupor and had another beer. The whole front of the bus was cheering him on. Good times.
    For the most part good post, but you just had to throw in the chad bashing part. If chad was playing in this game, he wouldnt have to come back b/c he wouldnt have thrown 3 int's (should be 5) to cause them to be behind in the 1st place. Is favre doing any better at beating good defenses? At least Chad with the jets was beating the bad teams. Favre cant even do that (see raiders game).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetglass View Post
    For the most part good post, but you just had to throw in the chad bashing part. If chad was playing in this game, he wouldnt have to come back b/c he wouldnt have thrown 3 int's (should be 5) to cause them to be behind in the 1st place. Is favre doing any better at beating good defenses? At least Chad with the jets was beating the bad teams. Favre cant even do that (see raiders game).
    You're right, he would have thrown two Pick Six's

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetglass View Post
    For the most part good post, but you just had to throw in the chad bashing part. If chad was playing in this game, he wouldnt have to come back b/c he wouldnt have thrown 3 int's (should be 5) to cause them to be behind in the 1st place. Is favre doing any better at beating good defenses? At least Chad with the jets was beating the bad teams. Favre cant even do that (see raiders game).
    My point was that I've seen multiple threads saying
    A) the Jets should bench Favre or
    B) Pennington's been better this year

    It's all part of the panic over the way the last 3 games have gone, and understandably so. My only point was that the Jets may have had a better record with Pennington, but I don't believe they would have as high a ceiling. Like I said, Favre could be a huge flop, and that's that. But, even if the Jets go 6-10 and Favre throws 25 INTs. I think the Jets made the right decision because Pennington is not leading this team to the Super Bowl.

    It should be noted that I do think Pennington could lead a team like the Vikings to the Super Bowl.

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    One more thing I forgot to mention. The crowd, while lethargic for most of the game (and understandably so) really came alive after the Jets scored and on the last two Chiefs possessions. I don't know if it came across on tv, or what other people at the stadium thought, but it was loud late in the game.

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    The crowd was definitely alive late in the fourth quarter, especially the Chiefs last drive.. Overall, I think the crowds have been a little complacent this year.. Alot of this has to do with the opponents.. Besides the Pats, they played a mediocre NFC team, and two god awful AFC teams at home.. It's a chain reaction.. Crowd expects a win because the teams they are playing are bad, therefore the crowd is relaxed.. Then the Jets play lethargic and boring, leading to a further numbing of the crowd..then the crowd finally comes alive when the Jets pathetic play actually starts to make the crowd think losing is a reality.. It's a pretty consistent cycle.. When the home opponents get tougher down the stretch, and the playoff run nears (hopefully), the crowds energy will intensify..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87 View Post
    Excellent write up bro and totally in agreement with you.

    Justin Long's a Jet fan? I didn't know that.
    It would make sense he'd be a fan. I grew up in his hometown and was lucky enough to be graced with his presense (sp?) in highschool and at my work. Alright kid i guess. But cool he's a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmans A Scientist View Post
    One more thing I forgot to mention. The crowd, while lethargic for most of the game (and understandably so) really came alive after the Jets scored and on the last two Chiefs possessions. I don't know if it came across on tv, or what other people at the stadium thought, but it was loud late in the game.

    that was all JENKINS. Did you see him taking bows after his sack on that last drive ( although it was his off sides penalty I think, I just got home and didn't see the replay yet) HE was the reason for the noise, the man loves the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmans A Scientist View Post
    1. The Jets playcalling is completely baffling. Their love of the 5 wide set makes no sense, especially on 3rd and short plays. It tells other teams that they won't run and it makes it harder to complete a pass. When they needed a short run, they got it every time when they ran, however, run that 5-wide set on 3rd and 2 from the Chiefs 8 yard line almost cost them the game. Complete and utter stupidity.

    2. Brett Favre was horrible. Never mind the INTs include that god-awful pick-6. There were 2 or 3 other balls that should have been picked off, including one that would have been of Chiefs TD. Too often when he gets rushed he just heaves the ball down field without any idea of where it's going or who it's going to. Yes, this is part of his mystique. But it can be a killed, and almost essentially ended the Jets season
    2A) This is an addendum to that. The idea that Pennington would be 5-2 or better with this team might be true (though I don't believe so). However, the Jets weren't going to win a Super Bowl with Pennington. Pennington still has trouble beating good defenses, and if the Jets were down in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs, they would have lost with Pennington at QB, because he never comes back. Even if Favre does fail with the Jets, I'm still glad they took a shot. The Jets have spent 7 years not beating good defenses and not scoring when they need a late TD with Pennington.

    3) There were a few offensive playcalls I did like. One that jumps out was the Brad Smith end around pass. No, it didn't work. Yes, the Chiefs were ready for it. But just the idea of it being in the Jets playbook was a good thing makes a big difference in the long run.

    4) The defense. 2 weeks against rookie QBs (or essentially rookies) and 0 forced turnovers. That's completely unacceptable from this defense. In the past I had said that I thought people were overvaluing how often the Jets should blitz. But, there's no excuse not to pressure rookie QBs into making mistakes. That being said, the defense did turn it up when it was needed. After the Chiefs field goal on the 1st drive of the 2nd half, they had 3 straight 3 and outs. That's what the defense should have been doing all along, but it was still nice to see the defense make some plays

    5) Justin Long is a funny dude. The Jets Chick had a Q&A that they showed on the board. He said (not an exact quote) his favorite player was Pat Leahy because Justin was a skinny white kid in Ct. and he could relate to him. Then she asked him something about what the Jets needed to do to make the playoffs and he said, "Steroids". The girl didn't know what to do. Very funny.

    6) Favre is clearly not on the same page with his receivers, it becomes more and more obvious every week. This is especially true with Cotchery, at least 2x a game Favre expects Cotchery to go in one direction and Cotch goes in a complete other direction. This has led to a few INTs and needs to be fixed.

    7) Lost in the haze of bad coaching and bad QBing was that awful play on a fantastic punt by Hodges. He placed it down inside the 5 and the Jets special teamers somehow couldn't keep the ball (and themselves) out of the endzone. That's a play that just shouldn't happen.

    Despite all of this, the Jets are still 4-3. Yes, they played 3 truly ****ty teams in a row, but if they can hang with Buffalo on the road and pull out a win, they are in great shape for the rest of the season. Despite what some people are saying, the Jets shouldn't pull Favre and the season isn't over yet.

    However some major improvements do need to happen on both the offensive, defensive, and coaching areas for the Jets to make a 2nd half run. Remember everyone, the season is not even halfway in, and the Jets are 4-3. Not all is lost yet.

    Special note: There was a guy that was so sloppy drunk that his friend couldn't even get him on to the bus to Secaucus. Let's hope our friend "Dave" woke up from his drunken stupor and had another beer. The whole front of the bus was cheering him on. Good times.
    hey nice write-up, much appreciated...i completley agree on the highlighted part -- the jets have the pieces to blitz heavily but they dont blitz allot from what i can see at least -- they blitzed rhodes a bunch this game but i agree sutton is a little too passive for my tastes.

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    that was all JENKINS. Did you see him taking bows after his sack on that last drive ( although it was his off sides penalty I think, I just got home and didn't see the replay yet) HE was the reason for the noise, the man loves the game
    Yeah he took a bow after that offsides call. I would have thought it was much funnier if I didnt think we were probably going to blow the game somehow. I will say that this was the first time I can recall a defensive lineman for the team trying to get the crowd going at the end. Usually its Rhodes or one of the other DBs trying to get the crowd into it, but today Jenkins took that role. It was certainly loud. The Jets have pretty much blown a great opportunity with the fans this year. That stadium has been ready to explode and outside of the one game where at least 1/4 of the fans were preoccupied with baseball the Jets have let everyone down.

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