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    Jets' Clemens: Don't Call Me Forgotten

    Dec 12, 2008 8:53 pm US/Eastern
    Jets' Clemens: Don't Call Me Forgotten
    Former Starting Quarterback Says He Plans On Being Gang Green's Top Gun Again Some Day
    FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) ― Kellen Clemens was one of the most popular guys around a few months ago, facing reporters daily and answering questions about the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

    Then Brett Favre showed up.

    "I wouldn't say I've been forgotten," Clemens told The Associated Press on Friday. "I still see myself as having a long-term future with this team and still plan on playing again and winning some games. This is what this year is and we've all tried to make the most of it."

    Week 15: Jets-Bills Preview

    Clemens, who started eight games last season, was immediately relegated to the bench when the Jets acquired the record-breaking quarterback in August. Gone were his chances to play regularly, as well as all the attention.

    "It was a different transition to go from getting the interviews, getting the reps and doing all of the other stuff on a daily basis to none," Clemens said. "I'm not going to say it was an easy transition or a smooth transition, but eventually I said, 'Hey, this is the situation that has presented itself. I can sit and complain and worry about myself or I can take it as an opportunity to get better.'

    "I think I've done the latter pretty successfully."

    The 25-year-old Clemens was a second-round pick out of Oregon in 2006, was anointed the Jets' quarterback of the future and seized the starting job from Chad Pennington midway through last season. He struggled mightily, though, and entered training camp in a competition with Pennington.

    Some thought maybe there was some divine intervention at play when Clemens' newborn daughter, Kate Elizabeth, was blessed and kissed by Pope Benedict XVI during a mass at Washington's Nationals Park in April.

    "I heard that stuff, but I didn't read too much into it," he said with a laugh. "I hope it's a sign, but a sign for her and the life she's going to live. If he'd have kissed me, well, then maybe."

    Pennington appeared to hold a slight edge a few weeks into camp, but that all changed with one late phone call from Eric Mangini the night before the Jets' preseason opener at Cleveland.

    "It was like 12 or 1 in the morning," Clemens recalled, "and coach Mangini called me and said, 'Hey, I just want to let you know that we just traded for Favre."'

    End of competition. Go grab a cap and a clipboard.

    "When we got Brett Favre, you don't even ask, 'Are we still going to be competing?"' he said. "It's like, 'Hey, I'll be happy with whatever reps I can get and be ready because I'm going to be an absolute sponge."'

    While Pennington was released the day after the trade and signed with Miami, Clemens became the latest on Favre's lengthy list of backups. He's actually gotten into two games in mop-up duty, going 3-of-5 for 26 yards and an interception.

    "This is the best thing ever, to sit back, really evaluate things and see things for what they really are," he said. "God knows, maybe I've even matured a little bit."

    Clemens said he's focused on his accuracy and footwork in the pocket, two of the biggest knocks on him last season, when he threw 10 interceptions against five touchdowns and was sacked 27 times.

    "He's made some good strides," Mangini said. "It's hard to say definitively because he hasn't played in the games very much, but what you see in practice in terms of his reads, his control of the offense and decision making, he's done a lot of things that are encouraging in those areas."

    Clemens has also tried to develop a thicker skin by watching Favre having fun, no matter the situation.

    "I've been on the sidelines this year when we've gone three-and-out and the boobirds came out," Clemens said. "That's something maybe if I was out there last year, I would've gone, 'Oh, man,' and listened to it. But really, who cares? I've gotten a chance to see it and say, 'That's Brett Favre and he's getting treated like that? It doesn't really mean anything."'

    Clemens also watched Favre handle the throng of reporters when he first joined the Jets and thought about how he approached similar situations on a much smaller scale last season. These days, he can breeze through the locker room virtually unnoticed.

    "And that's not necessarily a bad thing for me," he said with a big grin. "I've kind of enjoyed that."

    Make no mistake, though. Clemens still has a burning desire to be out on the field again for the Jets, whenever Favre decides to hang 'em up again -- for real.

    "I just miss playing," Clemens said. "I mean, we weren't winning a lot of games last year, but I had so much fun and I miss that. The thing that keeps me going each week, knowing it's really a great thing if I don't play, is just saying, 'Hey, whenever my opportunity does come up, God forbid this year or next year, that I'm ready as possible."

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    My sig says it all.

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    Too bad it looks like the Arena League will be shutting down, he might have to go back to milking cows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw View Post
    Too bad it looks like the Arena League will be shutting down, he might have to go back to milking cows.
    You bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Harris View Post
    You bastard.

    lol, I kid, I kid

    Edited: I do like Ratliff better, but I don't think either are franchise QB's. Hope I'm wrong though, I really don't see Favre coming back next season.
    Last edited by Buzzsaw; 12-12-2008 at 10:21 PM.

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    Ive forgotton Clemens a long time ago...

    Ratliff is a more promising quarterback, and is the true future of this team..

    1 great thing is we have 3 on the roster we can develop in the next 2 years... No need to draft one.
    Last edited by LETSGOJETS; 12-13-2008 at 01:21 PM.

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    I fully believe he still has a BRIGHT FUTURE, and Bringing Brett has also helped him develop other aspects of his game. Whether u believe it or not Kellen still has a BRIGHT FUTURE FOR THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Last line stood out immediately:

    "God forbid this year or next year, that I'm ready as possible"

    Did Brett tell him he plans on being here 2 years?

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    No quarterback could've excelled behind that offensive line last season.

    Almost all young QB's need a season of playing experience. Kellen's never been given a fair shake. He's got the goods.

    We have steve young light on the bench right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavericknyc1980 View Post
    I fully believe he still has a BRIGHT FUTURE, and Bringing Brett has also helped him develop other aspects of his game. Whether u believe it or not Kellen still has a BRIGHT FUTURE FOR THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Agreed. Taking Brett off the practice squad was one of the best moves this franchise has made for the long-term in quite some time.

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    I wanted the Jets to draft Ratliff bc i thought he would be a great QB in the NFL. I couldn't believe when i saw him getting invited to camp. I knew he would make it on the jets. The Funny thinng is i never saw him play . EVER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw View Post
    Too bad it looks like the Arena League will be shutting down, he might have to go back to milking cows.
    he can go to af2

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    As much as I miss penny boy these days (I know, this statement will have some throwing up out of denial), I think Clemens could be a good QB just as well. It's all about having the right pieces around him and letting him come into his own.

    It drives me crazy how much the Jets have cut the playbook (the motions and audibles they used to use) to cater to Favre. Hopefully, when its Clemens time to run the show, we can be more creative again (although who knows who will be coaching when that time comes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Harris View Post
    No quarterback could've excelled behind that offensive line last season.

    Almost all young QB's need a season of playing experience. Kellen's never been given a fair shake. He's got the goods.

    We have steve young light on the bench right now.
    While it is true no qb could have excelled behind that o line last year, clemens is an enigma, and I didnt see anything even remotely possible from last year to make it rational for you to say "hes got the goods." What goods are we talking about? Strong arm? Oh great, lets sign Kyle boller too while we are at it. Why do you think a strong arm means anything if you cant throw it accurately within 5 yards a receiver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetglass View Post
    While it is true no qb could have excelled behind that o line last year, clemens is an enigma, and I didnt see anything even remotely possible from last year to make it rational for you to say "hes got the goods." What goods are we talking about? Strong arm? Oh great, lets sign Kyle boller too while we are at it. Why do you think a strong arm means anything if you cant throw it accurately within 5 yards a receiver?
    Clemens arm strength is actually overrated by this board IMO.

    He's tough as nails, has mobility, intelligence, and leadership. I really like his anticipation as well, throws the ball before the receiver has turned. He hits the seam route better than any previous Jets QB.

    Not to mention he's now learned behind Brett Favre and Chad Pennington, you could not learn more from 2 totally different but successful NFL QB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac2566 View Post
    Last line stood out immediately:

    "God forbid this year or next year, that I'm ready as possible"

    Did Brett tell him he plans on being here 2 years?
    I'm really looking forward to the weekly "Anyone hear if Favre has made a decision" threads that are bound to be all over this site this off season. Just shoot me now.

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    I thought Kellen showed flashes at times last year. One of the biggest problems that he experienced was all the drops the Jets WRs had with him in last year. Hopefully he is learning a lot from Brett Favre and can become as good as Matt Hasselback and Aaron Rodgers have, both former Favre back ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Harris View Post
    Clemens arm strength is actually overrated by this board IMO.

    He's tough as nails, has mobility, intelligence, and leadership. I really like his anticipation as well, throws the ball before the receiver has turned. He hits the seam route better than any previous Jets QB.

    Not to mention he's now learned behind Brett Favre and Chad Pennington, you could not learn more from 2 totally different but successful NFL QB's.
    I agree.

    And, when I read here that he was only 25 (seems like he's been here forever, lol) I was reminded he is just a kid.

    He never got a real shot and we've effectively pushed him aside.

    I'd love to see him with this line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jr17892 View Post
    I'm really looking forward to the weekly "Anyone hear if Favre has made a decision" threads that are bound to be all over this site this off season. Just shoot me now.
    after last summers debacle you'd have to think Favre is done making 11th hour decisions. we hope anyway.

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    The Jets offensive line last year was SO bad that our starting LG and RT are not even BACKUPS on other teams right now. Thank about that. That is just awful.

    People who have jumped to conclusions based on last year are just outright ignorant. Clemens essentially led this team to a game winning drive against Baltimore last year. He showed poise in their wins against Pittsburgh and KC.

    I don't know if the answer is Ratliff or Clemens-- but I truly believe the answer will be one of those two.

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