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    Newsday rips Mangidiot - Deservedly so...

    Newsday.com
    Jets' AFC East rivals have coaching edge
    Anthony Rieber

    9:25 AM EST, December 15, 2008

    Two weeks to go. The Jets vs. the Patriots vs. the Dolphins.

    One of those teams will win the AFC East. The other two might not even make the playoffs.

    What do the Jets have going for them? Well, they hold the tiebreaker, so if they win their last two games, they win the division. Simple as that.

    What do the Jets have going against them? No, this isn't about that tired Same Old Jets routine. These are new Jets, and a collapse in 1985 is not relevant today.

    What is relevant, though, is the huge advantage the Patriots and Dolphins have over the Jets in one crucial area:

    Coaching.

    Forget Jets vs. Patriots vs. Dolphins. The championship of the AFC East might just come down to Mangini vs. Belichick vs. Parcells. And who do you like in that dogfight?

    (Yes, we know, Tony Sparano is the Dolphins coach, not Bill Parcells. As the kids say, 'Whatev.' We all know the Tuna is running the show in Miami, much to the delight of Fish fans everywhere.)

    The Jets are led by Mangini, who has had three seasons to prove whether he is a good coach or an overmatched automaton. Which one do you vote for? If you're a Jets fan, trying making anyone believe you weren't ready to dial up WFAN or start typing obscenities about Mangini into a Jets chat room when it looked like they were going to lose to the woeful Bills on Sunday.

    And Mangini has absolutely nothing to do with that "Miracle in the Meadowlands" 31-27 win. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and Dick Jauron gave the Jets that win when the Bills coach called for a pass play when all he had to do was run out the clock. As my colleague Wallace Matthews pointed out in his column today, "The Jets did not find a way to win; the Bills manufactured a way to lose."

    Left to his own devices, Mangini would today be explaining why the Jets lost to a reeling team at home with a division crown in their sights instead of taking bows for a win he had little to do with.

    Mangini's post-game press conference on Sunday was a study of self-delusion. He seemed satisfied. I doubt Belichick or Parcells/Sparano would have been. The Jets played a lot of bad football on Sunday and won thanks to bad coaching on the other side. They were lucky. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

    More of the time it's better to be good.

    Belichick is good. Real good. You think the Jets (or Giants, for that matter) could have survived the loss of their franchise quarterback and still gone 9-5? Belichick might be an everyday candidate to be Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in the World," but he knows how to demand excellence. Ditto Parcells, who won't win Miss Congeniality but has turned the Dolphins from a laughingstock 1-15 to a potential 11-win team in one season with spaghetti-armed Chad Pennington at quarterback and the untested Sparano in the coach's office.

    Mangini? He's been handed Brett Favre and millions and millions in free-agent talent and one of the softest schedules in the league and he still needed an excruciatingly dumb call from Jauron to save his carcass.

    If Jets players were allowed to speak freely in Mangini's paranoid world, they would tell you the coach hasn't completely earned their trust, either. Again, if you're a Jets fan, you know he hasn't earned yours.

    Wait until Favre leaves the Jets, perhaps after this season, and you'll find out how he really feels about the coach. Betcha it won't be flattering, especially if the Jets don't win out in the last two weeks and clinch the division.

    Prediction: They won't. In a dogfight, take the toughest dogs. That's Belichick and Parcells, not Mangini.

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    Can't say I disagree with anything that's said here.

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    This is spot-on, great article. I especially like this part:

    Mangini? He's been handed Brett Favre and millions and millions in free-agent talent and one of the softest schedules in the league and he still needed an excruciatingly dumb call from Jauron to save his carcass.
    Mangini is in way over his head, and it's become glaringly obvious.

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    As much as I want to win the superbowl this year, it probably wont happen.

    Seeing as our QB is 40 and probably wont even play next year we will probably have growing pains at the position next year. So why not just start fresh all around......I mean, i have lost faith in Eric Mangini too.

    If we collapse in Week 17 and get knocked out by the Dolphins, MANGINI has to GO!

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    Was he "in over his head" when we beat Tenn, the Pats, and Buffalo all on the road? Just sayin...............

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    Nice article. The writer pretty much nails it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
    Was he "in over his head" when we beat Tenn, the Pats, and Buffalo all on the road? Just sayin...............
    Well then what the hell happened to that coach?

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    I completely agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
    Was he "in over his head" when we beat Tenn, the Pats, and Buffalo all on the road? Just sayin...............
    Anyone can get lucky. He is 23-23 with the Jets. That should tell you all you need to know.

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    one of the softest schedules in the league

    - No softer then Miami's schedule

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    Quote Originally Posted by petejet View Post
    Belichick might be an everyday candidate to be Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in the World,"
    Oh the irony.

    Anyhoo, he's got a point.

    And lol at "Overmatched Automaton".

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    Just Blitz.

    Why will he not blitz?
    Doesn't he realize that when a qb has all day in the pocket, its bad?
    Doesnt he realize that pressuring the qb causes turnovers?

    Doesnt he realize that we CANNOT generate pressure with 4 man rushes?

    Mangini- WAKE UP you fat bast@rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Sporano's in a sucky situation... he wins and Parcells get's all the credit...he loses this thing and he'll get the blame...of falling short.

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    The reporter is a complete a-hole. He can't even get his facts straight. The Bills couldn't just run out the clock. The Bills needed a first down. It was 3rd and 5 and the JETS were stacking the line. I liked the call by Juron. He was trying to win the game.

    After the Revis INT, I wish we had tried a pass on 3rd to put the game away. But after the Bills debacle, I guess the run was the smart play.

    ANd, like I've said in the past, If we win a few ( like last month vs. Pats, Titans), these reporters along with many JET fans will be sucking Mangini's a$$!!!

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    Great Article! Mangini has no guts. If it were Coughlin, Fisher, or even Belichick on that podium after a loss they would be taking full reponsibility. Mangini just says im proud of the teams effort. Plus Mangini lacks fire on the sideline. When someone makes a bad play I want to see him in the players face screaming. Get them motivated. Even if this team makes the playoffs they wont go far if this playcalling is as pitiful as its been. And i put it all on Mangini.

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    Mangini is not the worst HC in football.
    Dick Jauron is.
    The only reason the Jets are still alive today is that the second worst coach beat the worst one.
    One thing is certain: they both will be unemployed soon.

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    That article brought a tear to my eye. I agree with everything. Mangini has been handed loads of talent and cant do anything but get by with it. I would love to see what a real coach like cough::cowher:: would do with this team.

    Id actually love to hear what some players really think about Mangini. Thatd would be some good reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
    Was he "in over his head" when we beat Tenn, the Pats, and Buffalo all on the road? Just sayin...............
    so true. at the end of the year is when we can evaluate him. but honestly the Jets are not looking to replace him anytime soon

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    "If Jets players were allowed to speak freely in Mangini's paranoid world"

    (I love that he is using this as a knock on Mangini in an article talking up Parcells and Belichick, two guys that always encourage their players to speak their minds . Think of Mangini what you will, but this article is completely slanted.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjetfan View Post
    The reporter is a complete a-hole. He can't even get his facts straight. The Bills couldn't just run out the clock. The Bills needed a first down. It was 3rd and 5 and the JETS were stacking the line. I liked the call by Juron. He was trying to win the game.

    After the Revis INT, I wish we had tried a pass on 3rd to put the game away. But after the Bills debacle, I guess the run was the smart play.

    ANd, like I've said in the past, If we win a few ( like last month vs. Pats, Titans), these reporters along with many JET fans will be sucking Mangini's a$$!!!
    What? lol. It was 2nd and 5 with 2:05 on the clock. And during the entire game the way Lynch was running what makes you think he cant get another 5 yards on 2 more tries? The offensive cord called a run but Juron overruled it to a playaction, and he even took the blame after the game and said it was a mistake.

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