I have had a chance to listen to a number of sports reports and read a bunch of sports pages from newspapers around the US and the consensus is that Favre is done as an NFL QB. Not only did a lot of them say he can't throw between the numbers but they also took issue with his decision making and some even have gone so far (Carl Banks for one) to say that Favre has cost the Jets at least 2-3 games. As for Woody and Tanny praising him people are stunned that they all but said he is welcome back if he decides not to retire which would be unfair to a new coach.

One other thing I was not aware of was that Mangini was one paranoid person who wanted to control everything regarding players off the field as well to the point where some players thought it was ridiculous.