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Thread: Sanchez = Harrington... just say no!

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    Sanchez = Harrington... just say no!

    When I watch Sanchez, I see a slightly more athletic Harrington...
    with perhaps bit more accuracy, but less arm strength...
    Not worth trading all the way to 4 or even 8...

    I'm not buying the Sanchez hype and don't think the Jets are serious about moving either. In MT's reign, the media has had zero clue as to what the Jets would do on draft day, why would things be different this year?

    Stay at 17, or trade down... this is a weak draft at the top.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iatj...eature=related

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    8.5 out of every 10 or so college QB's wind up busting in the NFL. But to say Sanchez reminds you of Harrington is silly. Why not Rick Mirer? Or Tim Couch? Or David Carr? Etc.

    Dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMJ View Post
    8.5 out of every 10 or so college QB's wind up busting in the NFL. But to say Sanchez reminds you of Harrington is silly. Why not Rick Mirer? Or Tim Couch? Or David Carr? Etc.

    Dumb.
    Because his mechanics don't remind me of those players.
    Thanks for replying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterxman View Post
    Because his mechanics don't remind me of those players.
    Thanks for replying even if you did say something stupid.
    Thanks for making a worthless thread since it said something stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterxman View Post
    Because his mechanics don't remind me of those players.
    Thanks for replying.
    I think he was just following the theme of this thread...

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    The most impressive thing about sanchez's game to me is his footwork

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    Hey listen everyone is entitled to an opinion.

    If you aren't going to be constructive, then please don't reply.
    You guys obviously love Sanchez, I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMJ View Post
    8.5 out of every 10 or so college QB's wind up busting in the NFL. But to say Sanchez reminds you of Harrington is silly. Why not Rick Mirer? Or Tim Couch? Or David Carr? Etc.

    Dumb.

    On Sirius NFL radio Pat Kirwan was saying the success rate of a first round QB is between 35-40% which isn't too good. A 1st round QB is pretty risky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterxman View Post
    Hey listen everyone is entitled to an opinion.

    If you aren't going to be constructive, then please don't reply.
    You guys obviously love Sanchez, I don't.
    I don't love Sanchez one bit. I still have NO CLUE what my reaction would be if we take him.

    A person didn't have to love Sanchez to recognize that this was a stupid thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterxman View Post
    When I watch Sanchez, I see a slightly more athletic Harrington...
    with perhaps bit more accuracy
    Wouldn't those two attributes, combined with his amazing intangies, make Sanchez a fantastic QB prospect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    The most impressive thing about sanchez's game to me is his footwork
    +1

    It stands out as his most impressive trait. I dont see that at all in the Harrington video. In fact I dont see anything that remotely looks similar between the two in that video

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMJ View Post
    8.5 out of every 10 or so college QB's wind up busting in the NFL. But to say Sanchez reminds you of Harrington is silly. Why not Rick Mirer? Or Tim Couch? Or David Carr? Etc.

    Dumb.



    it's not dumb, if he indeed knows what he sees.


    you know what, personally i happen to trust my judgment regarding QB's more then the scouts. Have had a decent knack for predicting QB success over the years. If someone else does, more power to them. The scouts are not Gods. And the draft is NOT a crapshoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by persiussa View Post
    On Sirius NFL radio Pat Kirwan was saying the success rate of a first round QB is between 35-40% which isn't too good. A 1st round QB is pretty risky.
    JMJ says that it's 85%... not sure where he got his number though...

    Truthfully this is why I hate the idea of trading up for Sanchez.
    He doesn't have a high ceiling, much like the QB's JMJ mentions who were all busts. Style wise, he reminds me of Harrington.

    You could put a lot of QB's on USC this year and they would put up similiar stats.

    Now I will get another reply saying, that's just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot View Post
    Wouldn't those two attributes, combined with his amazing intangies, make Sanchez a fantastic QB prospect
    Perhaps, but I'm not willing to trade up to find out...
    There are red alarms here that worry me and should worry everyone imo...

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    I just dont equate Joey Harrington to Mark Sanchez these are 2 totally different QB's in skill sets and styles where is this comparison coming from
    If you dont like sanchez just let it be known but trying to bunch him together with Harrington is comical

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPanther View Post
    I just dont equate Joey Harrington to Mark Sanchez these are 2 totally different QB's in skill sets and styles where is this comparison coming from
    If you dont like sanchez just let it be known but trying to bunch him together with Harrington is comical
    Exxxxxactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterxman View Post
    Perhaps, but I'm not willing to trade up to find out...
    There are red alarms here that worry me and should worry everyone imo...
    Please elaborate on the 'red-alarms'

    Aside from starting just 16 games, he's got EVERYTHING you want in a QB.

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    Elements of their game are similiar their footwork, release, pocket awareness...
    and both played with explosive players that masked their flaws in college.
    Both were on one loss teams, both were hyped up due to stellar bowl games.
    Harrington went #3 so it's not like I'm comparing Sanchez to a 7th round pick.

    Comical, dumb, whatever...
    Just glad he won't be a Jet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot View Post
    Please elaborate on the 'red-alarms'

    Aside from starting just 16 games, he's got EVERYTHING you want in a QB.
    I've already stated on many other threads why I don't like him -

    1. Experience - 16 games is not enough. NFL history is against him.
    2. Never had to make a big throw in college when the game was on the line + large throwing windows that you don't see in the NFL.
    3. Played with elite talent - RB's - 200 yards/game - 5 yards/carry. It's easy to look good when defenses can't stop the run.
    4. His WR's are dynamic + underrated - all averaged over 15 yards/catch.
    5. The one regular season game his team was held under 100 yards rushing, USC lost. He had a decent game but he had to step up in that one and will his team to victory.
    6. Put Mike Teel on USC and they would have won the same # of games and he'd have similiar stats.
    7. USC Oline is very good, Sanchez never faced consistent pressure, and they allow him to have huge throwing lanes for him to step into.
    8. The USC offense was so explosive, that Sanchez only threw over 30 times in 4 games. He simply did not throw the ball enough and most of the types of throws he made were, screens to WR's, screens to RB's and long bombs to wide open WR's... the deep out was not a throw he had to make and it's throw that all great NFL QB's have to be able to make to keep defenses honest.
    9. I hate how the USC offense scheme + talent can make every single QB who played for them throw for over 60% and 30 tds.
    Last edited by Monsterxman; 04-25-2009 at 09:09 AM.

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    very good points, i agree with you

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