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    Jets Losses: Not QB Related

    While Sanchize has not had a great year, he is not the reason the Jets are in the situation they are in. In terms of blame:

    45%: Poor OL performance. In almost all of the non-competitive Jets losses, the OL play has been brutal giving Sanchize little time and RB's no room to move.

    20%: Speed: Simply put, the Jets lack it on both sides of the ball. In particular, they have NO deep threat to stretch the field.

    35%: Safeties - the Safeties are below average on the run and horrific in coverage. With Leonard out, the Jets are screwed.

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    By your estimation Rex's obesity must not be food related.

    C'mon man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    By your estimation Rex's obesity must not be food related.

    C'mon man.
    ROTFLMAO What a great response. I agree with you. I am disgusted with wild eyed hero worshipers blaming everyone else for our misfortunes. Sanchez is our QB and he is supposed to elevate the play of those surrounding him. He does not do that! The Ol also deserves lots of blame and Greene does too. He is only starting to resemble the rb we thought we drafted.


    REX deserves blame as well. He knew he needed a cover safety in preseason and did not actively seek one. He also knew that HUNTER is a career backup. Yet he did not seek an OT with starting ability. Many were on the market and we sat on our hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    By your estimation Rex's obesity must not be food related.

    C'mon man.
    You remind me of PatsFanTx and his hate of Pennington...Rex's obesity is not food related it's bad choose related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet View Post
    ROTFLMAO What a great response. I agree with you. I am disgusted with wild eyed hero worshipers blaming everyone else for our misfortunes. Sanchez is our QB and he is supposed to elevate the play of those surrounding him. He does not do that! The Ol also deserves lots of blame and Greene does too. He is only starting to resemble the rb we thought we drafted.


    REX deserves blame as well. He knew he needed a cover safety in preseason and did not actively seek one. He also knew that HUNTER is a career backup. Yet he did not seek an OT with starting ability. Many were on the market and we sat on our hands.
    I don't seem to remember Chaddy getting the grief in 06 when we went 10-6 and he had 17 tds and 16 picks.. Of course then most thought Schotty was a genius..

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    And just remember, football is 80% mental and 40% physical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digetydog View Post
    While Sanchize has not had a great year, he is not the reason the Jets are in the situation they are in. In terms of blame:

    45%: Poor OL performance. In almost all of the non-competitive Jets losses, the OL play has been brutal giving Sanchize little time and RB's no room to move.

    20%: Speed: Simply put, the Jets lack it on both sides of the ball. In particular, they have NO deep threat to stretch the field.

    35%: Safeties - the Safeties are below average on the run and horrific in coverage. With Leonard out, the Jets are screwed.
    Please show your work how you calculated the percentages, strength of variables, etc.

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    Just three things, huh?

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    I agree to some extent but you can't have a top 5 defense, running game and o-line every year like he had his 1st two years in the league. You draft a franchise QB to win games with is ability and overcome other bad aspects of the team.

    NE and the packers have horrible defenses, they are still winning. The minute Peyton manning goes down the Colts go from a good team on a bit of a decline to and absolute disaster. If Sanchez is the franchise guy we all hope it is on his shoulders to get to the playoffs this year.

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    It's not "everyone's" fault? Blame just one person?

    Yes, some are more to blame than others, but it's not just one person or element of the team. The Jets need to be consistent, that's the coach. Then they need execution, and that's the players. They need players with speed, that's the front office.

    Everyone shares the blame for this underachieving 8-6 season thus far.

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    Denver Game,..... Pick 6... The difference in that game. How is that a speed, o-line or saftey problem. Without the pick six we win. Record is 9-5.

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    So 0% is bad QB play?

    My farts smell like sh!t!!

    37% is sphincter related.

    28% is my wifes fault

    22% is air related

    13% is the economy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarjet View Post
    Denver Game,..... Pick 6... The difference in that game. How is that a speed, o-line or saftey problem. Without the pick six we win. Record is 9-5.
    If our top 10 defense stops Tebow from going 90 yards, we win. Record is 9-5.

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    So you replace Sanchez with Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Rothlesberger, Brees, etc we have the same record? We don't have a better record if Sanchez played like the 17 million dollar QB he is being payed to be? Hmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDL_JET View Post
    If our top 10 defense stops Tebow from going 90 yards, we win. Record is 9-5.
    The game never comes down to the last drive if our QB doesn't hand the other team 7. Denver had done nothing on offense all game and we hand them 7. On top of that our defense basically stopped denver 20 times, you can't have them on the field all game long. If the QB made a play, the game is over in the 3rd.

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    63% of statistics are made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    It's not "everyone's" fault? Blame just one person?

    Yes, some are more to blame than others, but it's not just one person or element of the team. The Jets need to be consistent, that's the coach. Then they need execution, and that's the players. They need players with speed, that's the front office.

    Everyone shares the blame for this underachieving 8-6 season thus far.
    My point exactly. In the offseason, the Jets must improve in the areas I identified. They are horrible in those areas. Sanitize isn't Elite, but he isn't horrible andvthey are unlikely to be able to bring in someone better this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnus View Post
    So you replace Sanchez with Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Rothlesberger, Brees, etc we have the same record? We don't have a better record if Sanchez played like the 17 million dollar QB he is being payed to be? Hmmmmm
    Replace any of these QB's and an OC and we are a 11 win team right now Denver NEx2 are three wins right there. Ravens game we still lose. Without Mangold our line is toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    I agree to some extent but you can't have a top 5 defense, running game and o-line every year like he had his 1st two years in the league. You draft a franchise QB to win games with is ability and overcome other bad aspects of the team.

    NE and the packers have horrible defenses, they are still winning. The minute Peyton manning goes down the Colts go from a good team on a bit of a decline to and absolute disaster. If Sanchez is the franchise guy we all hope it is on his shoulders to get to the playoffs this year.
    Peyton Manning had a top 3 running game (arguably the best) through the first 3 years of his career. He didn't in his 4th and 5th years, which also happen to be 2 of the 3 worst years of his career. Peyton Manning has played 12 seasons and has won 1 Super Bowl.

    Tom Brady has been to 4 Super Bowls in his career. The Patriots rankings for points allowed in those 4 years were: 6th, 1st, 2nd, and 4th. He lost a Super Bowl in which his defense only gave up 17 points because his offensive line couldn't do their jobs.

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