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    NY Daily News: Jets players want Manning. Say Sanchez is "lazy"


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    This article is complete bullshlt. Quoting unknown players??? Ok yea, I believe that.

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    what a crap "article"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515 View Post
    This article is complete bullshlt. Quoting unknown players??? Ok yea, I believe that.
    Manish doesn't have a track record of BS.

    I don't like the article at all, but for different reasons. I doubt anything he put in there is false.

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    NY Jets players bash Mark Sanchez, say they want Peyton Manning and GM Mike Tannenbaum should trade young quarterback away

    Teammates rip franchise QB, say he's 'lazy' and 'content'

    By Manish Mehta
    Published: Wednesday, January 11 2012, 1:27 AM

    A season torn by discord and dysfunction prompted several key Jets players and members of the organization to paint a sobering picture of Mark Sanchez, a polarizing figure within the franchise’s walls.

    They raised serious doubts about his ability to lead the Jets, questioning everything from his practice habits to the organization’s coddling of him to how much of a role he truly played in the team making two consecutive AFC Championship Game appearances.

    They also invited the opportunity to replace Sanchez with Peyton Manning.

    The consensus among players who spoke to the Daily News was that, at the very least, the Jets must sign a legitimate veteran backup to push their young quarterback.

    “We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” said one player. “He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched.”

    On Dec. 28, Sanchez said that he was “light years ahead” in areas such as defensive recognition, clock management and understanding of the offensive system. Six days later, general manager Mike Tannenbaum said that Sanchez’s “rate of growth isn’t where it needs to be.”

    The doubts crept in long before Sanchez stood in front of his locker on a Wednesday two weeks ago.

    The Jets already were in free-fall when he tried to brush aside the undercurrent of a season gone wrong. Four days before Gang Green’s meltdown was complete under the South Florida sun with a 19-17 loss to the Dolphins, a final dagger in a season that began with so much promise and hype, Sanchez insisted that he didn’t need to validate himself as the starting quarterback.

    “I’m not out to prove anything like that to people,” Sanchez said four days before the Jets finished out of the playoffs at 8-8. “I just want to work hard for these guys on the team. These guys know I’m leading by example. These are the guys I’m playing for right here in this locker room and in this building.”

    Sanchez’s season was a microcosm of his three-year career, a confounding blend of good, bad and ugly. He threw for a career-high 26 touchdowns and committed a career-high 26 turnovers (18 interceptions, 8 lost fumbles). He helped the Jets lead the league in red-zone touchdown efficiency (65.5%) with 21 touchdown passes inside the 20 (fifth best in the NFL). He also committed nine turnovers during the Jets' season-ending three-game slide.

    Since entering the league in 2009, Sanchez has thrown for the second-most interceptions (51) and committed the second-most turnovers (63) in the NFL.

    His inconsistent play has teammates wondering if the Jets can upgrade. Several players and members of the organization were asked if the Jets should make a play for Peyton Manning if the Colts, who are expected to select Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck with the No. 1 pick in the draft, release him.

    “Come on. That’s a no-brainer,” a Jets source said. “If you have a chance to get a healthy 36-year-old Peyton Manning and you don’t do it, then you’re stupid. If I could get a healthy 36-year-old Peyton Manning, then, hell yeah, I would trade Sanchez.”

    Sanchez’s teammates didn’t hesitate when asked if the Jets should pursue Manning if he is medically cleared after his recent neck surgeries. They believed that the presence of consultant Tom Moore, who was Manning’s offensive coordinator and mentor during their decade-long run together in Indianapolis, would be a bonus to lure Manning to New York.

    “We already have his coach — Tom Moore,” one well-respected player said. “Plus, he’s a field general and will get everyone lined up. He will get his playmakers the ball. We can win a Super Bowl with Peyton.”

    But can the Jets hoist the Lombardi Trophy with Sanchez?

    “How can we when he’s not improving at all?” one of Sanchez’s teammates said. “He thinks he is, but he’s not. He has shown us what he’s capable of.”

    Sanchez, who has two years remaining on his rookie contract, wasn’t the lone culprit on the 25th-ranked offense. He was sacked 39 times. Edge pass rushers routinely beat left tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson and right tackle Wayne Hunter, who allowed a combined 19 sacks — or 48% of the team total, according to Pro Football Focus. Sanchez lost confidence after getting hit so many times, according to several teammates. One Jets source admitted that Sanchez “worked his ass off” to correct his mistakes in meetings, but he was soon buried under an avalanche of offensive breakdowns on game days.

    “At one point, he was looking at the (pass) rush and wasn’t seeing the receivers,” a team source said. “I think that’s a lack of confidence in what we’re doing. I think that's a lack of confidence in how we’re protecting him... When you get hit the way that he got hit, there were some quarterbacks that wouldn’t have made it through the season.”

    Some of Sanchez’s teammates thought it was unfair to pin a lost season all on their young quarterback.

    “Everybody got down on the quarterback,” a Jets source said. “But they weren’t looking at the situations we were putting him in. I don’t think he’s as bad as people are making him out to be. When the ---- started snowballing and he lost confidence, he never recovered. Then, you saw him making one stupid throw and one stupid mistake after another.”

    The complex game plans didn't help matters, according to several people. Sanchez had difficulty absorbing the weekly wrinkles and changes, teammates said.

    “So many games, he looked defeated before he ever took the field,” a team source said. “He didn’t have much confidence in what he was about to go do. You could tell throughout the week in practice. He never felt comfortable with some of the things we were doing. It was too much for him.”

    Other teammates were less forgiving. They pointed to Sanchez’s career arc as reason for change.

    Sanchez has finished 29th, 29th and 27th in completion percentage in his first three seasons. His passer-rating rankings: 28th, 27th and 23rd.

    He has taken a step back in yards per attempt each season from 6.7 to 6.5 to 6.4. Rex Ryan admitted that the inability to stretch the field was one of his primary concerns all year. Sanchez completed a league-worst two passes of 40-plus yards this season. By comparison, Tim Tebow completed three passes of at least 40 yards in the second quarter of the Broncos’ wild-card overtime win against the Steelers Sunday.

    Although Sanchez won four road playoff games in his first two seasons, some teammates remained critical, pointing to the successful rushing attack and defense as the key reasons for the Jets’ success in 2009 and 2010.

    A couple weeks ago, Sanchez dismissed a report that he was being coddled. His teammates disagreed.

    “They don’t want to be truthful with him,” one prominent player said of the way that the organization has handled Sanchez. “They treat him like a baby instead of a man. He goes in a hole when someone tells him the truth.”

    A Jets spokesman declined to make Sanchez available for this story. A source close to the team pointed out that Sanchez’s inability to handle mounting criticism prompted him to unfollow every Jets beat writer on Twitter earlier this season.

    “So that should tell you everything,” the source said. “He just doesn’t have the mental toughness to be great... especially in New York.”

    Some in the organization told The News that many of Sanchez’s teammates have grown resentful for myriad reasons.

    “They see the organization babying him,” said a Jets source. “They see him with a sense of entitlement. He’s been given all this and hasn’t done anything. They call him ‘San-chise.’ They make him the face of the organization. They gave him the captain tag. He’s not a captain. He should have never been a captain.”

    None of the players who spoke to the Daily News for this story agreed with Ryan’s decision to anoint Sanchez as a captain.

    On Dec. 28, Sanchez denied the notion that he was a victim of a high standard set by going to two AFC Championship Games in his first two seasons.

    "We hold ourselves to a high standard,” Sanchez said. “I don’t want to feel like I’m a victim or anything like that. We expect to win... I don’t feel like we’ve set the bar too high. There is no way. I don’t feel like that.”

    Five days later, Sanchez expressed a much different outlook.

    “You go to back-to-back AFC Championship Games, and everybody thinks, ‘OK, we’ll just get a little bit better and you are winning the Super Bowl,’” Sanchez told ESPN Radio on Jan. 3. “I don’t want to make excuses at all. That’s not my style. But we’ve kind of been a victim of our own success.”

    The hope for some players this offseason is that the Jets will pursue Manning if he is healthy and available. Of course, there is no guarantee that Manning would choose them even if owner Woody Johnson and Ryan put on all-out blitz.

    “I don’t think that he’ll come here,” a member of the Jets organization said. “We have to change the perception of our organization. We’re not the organization that players said they wanted to play for a year or two ago. We’re starting to come across a little flaky. We talk the talk. We don’t back it up. We’re out of control. There’s no discipline. It’s a mess right now.”





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    I'll bet Sanchez was one of McElroy's alleged "entitled players" in the clubhouse. Got that ominous feeling feeling from the moment McElroy's comments appeared the other day.

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    Article didn't say Sanchez was lazy...

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    Just thinking about his demeanor on the sideline during games adds just a little evidence to what some of the players are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Brown View Post
    Article didn't say Sanchez was lazy...
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    “We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” said one player. “He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcat View Post
    I'll bet Sanchez was one of McElroy's alleged "entitled players" in the clubhouse. Got that ominous feeling feeling from the moment McElroy's comments appeared the other day.
    If McElroy is one of the players speaking out then this guy is turning out to be as big of a cancer as Holmes! Say what you want about "speaking the truth" but some things should be handled inhouse and there is way too much getting out right now. You don't air your dirty laundry in the streets, nobody wins in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Brown View Post
    Article didn't say Sanchez was lazy...
    Yes it did:

    “We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” said one player. “He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched.”

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    If any of these quotes are true and from people that matter, I'm sure our new OC can light a fire under Sanchez' ass. Plus he knows he's out of chances, I'm sure he has a computer and a tv. I don't believe the article though, typical bad news spin after good news (schotty fired) in Jetland.

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    This is going to be a long offseason.

    I truly wonder, if you polled all the players on the Jets, and asked, "Would you get rid of Sanchez or Schotty?" how that poll would turn out.

    This upcoming season is make or break for Mark Sanchez. No doubt about it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ego Trip View Post
    If any of these quotes are true and from people that matter, I'm sure our new OC can light a fire under Sanchez' ass. Plus he knows he's out of chances, I'm sure he has a computer and a tv. I don't believe the article though, typical bad news spin after good news (schotty fired) in Jetland.
    I believe it 100% if, for no other reason, than it's from Manish and he's one of, if not thee best beat writer for the Jets.

    It's unfortunate, because Sanchez came across as a leader in a variety of ways (Jets West, going back onto the field after continuous beatings and sacks, etc.) but if this is coming from more than just one or two respected players, I think we have to believe it.

    I want to hear an interview with Nick Mangold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    I believe it 100% if, for no other reason, than it's from Manish and he's one of, if not thee best beat writer for the Jets.

    It's unfortunate, because Sanchez came across as a leader in a variety of ways (Jets West, going back onto the field after continuous beatings and sacks, etc.) but if this is coming from more than just one or two respected players, I think we have to believe it.

    I want to hear an interview with Nick Mangold.
    Manish is definitely one of the best Jets beat writers but I want names to the quotes! If you are going to call people out then be man enough to put your name to it and stand by it. How do we know these quotes aren't coming from bums like Hunter?? or Mulligan?? or even worst McElroy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatnlvr View Post
    Manish is definitely one of the best Jets beat writers but I want names to the quotes! If you are going to call people out then be man enough to put your name to it and stand by it. How do we know these quotes aren't coming from bums like Hunter?? or Mulligan?? or even worst McElroy??
    I want names too, but if we get names we'll also get bullsh!t middle-of-the-road quotes like, "yeah, it was tough for all of us and we need to improve, Mark did the best he could but this was a team failure."

    Manish basically went to people HE respects (and this is where you have to trust the writer) and said, "Look, give me the real deal. We need to know what the team and organization really think of Sanchez. No sugar-coating it. I won't identify you by name."

    What if it's a guy like Mangold who is saying, "heck yeah, if we can get Peyton Manning we have to do it. Mark has leveled off and isn't improving." Then the Jets don't get Manning and Nick has to go sit in a meeting with Mark, "uhhh....yeah, I was just kidding dude. We're committed to you as the leader of the team."

    Listen, it pains me to read this article. I had (and still somewhat have) high hopes for Sanchez. I think better protection, an upgraded WR (maybe going back to Braylon), and new coaching are the best and possibly last chances we'll have to see what he really has. But this article is bad news and I do believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    I want names too, but if we get names you'll also get bullsh!t middle-of-the-road quotes like, "yeah, it was tough for all of us and we need to improve, Mark did the best he could but this was a team failure."

    Manish basically went to people HE respects (and this is where you have to trust the writer) and said, "Look, give me the real deal. We need to know what the team and organization really think of Sanchez. No sugar-coating it. I won't identify you by name."

    What if it's a guy like Mangold who is saying, "heck yeah, if we can get Peyton Manning we have to do it. Mark has leveled off and isn't improving." Then the Jets don't get Manning and Nick has to go sit in a meeting with Mark, "uhhh....yeah, I was just kidding dude. We're committed to you as the leader of the team."

    Listen, it pains me to read this article. I had (and still somewhat have) high hopes for Sanchez. I think better protection, an upgraded WR (maybe going back to Braylon), and new coaching are the best and possibly last chances we'll have to see what he really has. But this article is bad news and I do believe it.
    I definitely agree that the article was bad news. It not only points to huge issues with our Franchise QB but it also put out a very bad image of the organization being a mad house with no control & players not wanted to come play for us.

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    Free Agency and the Draft can't get here soon enough.

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    I don't think it's possible to be lazy while working for HUE JACKSON. Bring in HUE and watch him kick some ass.

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