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    Rich Cimini is an IDIOT!!!

    I've read some of his dumber columns but this one on the Sanchez contract takes the cake for Cimininan stupidity.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...-jets-thinking

    I have so many opinions on the Mark Sanchez contract extension that I don't know where to start. This move is so stunning, so confounding, so impulsive, so typical of the Jets. Let's start big-picture and take it from there:

    1. The three-year, $40.5 million extension (through 2016) means Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum are all-in with Sanchez. He'll either make them famous or get them fired. The deal includes $20.5 million in guarantees in the first two years and no offsets, meaning he's their starting quarterback for at least two more seasons.

    2. Let's take a closer look. Sanchez had no guaranteed money remaining on his old contract, but you had to figure his $11.8 million for 2012 was safe. (You didn't really think they were going to get Peyton Manning, did you?) So in essence, the Jets tossed in another $8.7 million in guarantees for '12 and '13.

    3. Tannenbaum said they were in negotiations for "several weeks," and I believe him, but it can't be a coincidence that this deal was wrapped up on the same day Manning decided what we all expected anyway -- he's not going to play for the Jets. The contract extension screams of a public-relations move.

    4. This is "statement" money. To eliminate any questions about Sanchez's standing with the team or stature in the locker room, the Jets answered with the kind of vote of confidence that grabs everybody's attention -- money! They took a page out of the Stephen Ross book. Stuck with Tony Sparano last season after getting jilted by Jim Harbaugh, Ross, the Dolphins' owner, tried to make it better by giving Sparano a contract extension. It didn't make it better.

    5. The Jets rewarded a player after openly acknowledging he didn't progress as expected. What kind of message does that send? When the season ended, Tannenbaum said Sanchez "didn't play well," admitting they weren't pleased with his rate of development. Instead of keeping the pressure on him and making him play for the guaranteed pay, they just handed it to him.

    6. Uh, I don't think this is going to quash the perception that he's coddled.

    7. It sure looks like the Jets tried to use their interest in Manning as leverage in the Sanchez negotiations. Maybe that's why they were so hush-hush throughout the process.

    8. It was costly, but at least this lets the locker room know the organization is behind Sanchez as the leader of the franchise. No "C" for Sanchez, though, just a lot of M's -- millions.

    9. Not sure of Sanchez's new cap number for '12, but it's significantly less than the original $14.3 million. This will give them more flexibility in free agency. Tannenbaum said cap relief wasn't the purpose of the new deal, but he'll take it.

    10. Forget about signing a quality No. 2 backup. Presumably, this contract will scare away the top free agents because they know it's Sanchez's job. Money talks.

    11. They're putting a lot of faith in Sparano, the new coordinator, to get Sanchez back on track.

    12. Bottom line: This is a risky move for the Jets. Sanchez has shown promise in his first three seasons, there's no doubt, but after last season's struggles, there's no way we can say for sure that he will be an elite quarterback. The Jets increased their bet on Sanchez at a time when they didn't have to do anything.
    Bottom line: Cimini does not understand how the NFL works.

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    You just came to this realization now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regen View Post
    I've read some of his dumber columns but this one on the Sanchez contract takes the cake for Cimininan stupidity.


    Bottom line: Cimini does not understand how the NFL works.
    How does the NFL work? What exactly did he say that made him an idiot? Most of what he said was correct.

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    I'm sorry, but I agree with a lot of his points. I'm not hating on Sanchez, I was down on him but firmly believe he needs another year, if not 2, without all the bull that went down this year. However, what did you expect Cimini or any other media person to write? That this is the most awesome contract extension of all time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    How does the NFL work? What exactly did he say that made him an idiot? Most of what he said was correct.
    Are you Cimini? You defend him a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsMakeMeCry View Post
    I'm sorry, but I agree with a lot of his points. I'm not hating on Sanchez, I was down on him but firmly believe he needs another year, if not 2, without all the bull that went down this year. However, what did you expect Cimini or any other media person to write? That this is the most awesome contract extension of all time?
    For the most part he should reserve judgment until he fully understands what he is reading. The only person in the media who has fairly portrayed the extension from both the Jets and Sanchez's side of the table is Mike Florio. Florio and many league insiders, some of which he has quoted, have all called this what it is, a glorified restructuring that frees up money under this years cap, locks up Sanchez if the Jets want him at what could be a favorable rate if the cap jumps in 2014 and puts some extra money in Sanchez's pocket regardless of performance...and a lot more if he plays great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    How does the NFL work? What exactly did he say that made him an idiot? Most of what he said was correct.
    Stating the obvious- things like Sanchez will be their QB for the next two years, and Rex & Tanny's futures are tied to Sanchez becoming better- and ripping the team do not make an intelligent analyst.

    Giving Cimini a job as a football analyst is like giving a college degree for knowing the alphabet. ESPN could hire smarter people.

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    9. Not sure of Sanchez's new cap number for '12, but it's significantly less than the original $14.3 million. This will give them more flexibility in free agency. Tannenbaum said cap relief wasn't the purpose of the new deal, but he'll take it.

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    This is smart analysis of the Sanchez deal (via Mike Florio). Cimini should give him a call, maybe learn something.

    Breaking down Sanchez’s “lipstick and powder” contract
    Posted by Mike Florio on March 10, 2012, 1:22 PM EST

    Yes, Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez will earn $20.5 million in guaranteed money in 2012 and 2013 as part of his new contract. The fact, however, that Sanchez already was due to earn $17.75 million over the next two seasons has prompted one league source to characterize the move as a “lipstick and powder” deal.

    For an extra $2.75 million, Sanchez gave the Jets three straight option years, allowing the team to keep him if he finally realizes his full potential — and to cut him without further investment after the 2013 season, the 2014 season, or the 2015 season.

    The contract also could be called a glorified restructuring. Per a source with knowledge of the details, Sanchez’s $11.75 million base salary for 2012 has been converted to an $8 million signing bonus, a fully-guaranteed base salary of $3.25 million, and a $500,000 workout bonus.

    The move creates $6.4 million in 2012 cap space.

    In 2013, Sanchez will receive a fully-guaranteed base salary of $8.25 million. In 2014, Sanchez is due to receive a $2 million roster bonus on the 15th day of the league year and a non-guaranteed $9 million base salary. In 2015, there’s another $1 million roster bonus due on the 15th day of the league year, plus a non-guaranteed base salary of $12.5 million. In 2016, Sanchez is due another $1 million roster bonus on the 15th day of the league yeaar, plus a base salary of $10.75 million. Workout bonuses of $500,000 apply in each year of the deal.

    The contract contains $10 million in potential escalators, based in part on Super Bowl appearances and/or victories.

    Given the organization’s apparent mixed feelings about Sanchez, getting the extra money and converting all of it to a guaranteed payment was a good career move. He could have been dumped after 2012, with the $6 million due next year forever gone.

    Still, it likely wasn’t an accident that the news of this one came late on a Friday night. It’s hardly a big-money, long-term commitment.

    Which actually will be regarded by plenty of Jets fans as good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    How does the NFL work? What exactly did he say that made him an idiot? Most of what he said was correct.
    It's not a risky move at all. They have a two year window to win the Super Bowl; if they don't get it, this team gets blown up, and it won't just be Sanchez; there is about 10-12 guys they can get rid of.

    This is how you win; you take what you have and see if it works, you don't change it every five minutes. Will it work? Won't know until the two years are up, but this team is doing it the way you ought to do it.

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    Here's what I'm getting from Florio's article. For an extra 2.75 million, the Jets now get 3 team-option years of Sanchez. If he turns out to be good, they will have him at a bargain for those years. If he turns out to suck, it costs only an extra 2.75 million to cut him after this upcoming season than it normally would.

    For that 2.75 million, we not only get the additional team option years, but we get a huge cap savings this year.

    Cimini is a low-IQ yellow journalist, and his media outlet caters to the bottom rung of sports fans. It's a perfect fit. Here he is running around in hysteria trying to drum up the mouth breathers to call into talk radio and whine over what is actually a pretty coy football move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Most of what he said was opinion, designed first and foremost to get attention, and sell his media product and himself.
    Fixed.

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    as soon as I saw that the thread title referred to Dick Semen-i, I chose not to read one word of another of his agenda driven piles of drivel

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite View Post
    Are you Cimini? You defend him a lot
    If he is writing something I agree with I'll defend his article if not he deserves to get blasted. Mark Sanchez has dissapointed me more than impressed me in his career considering all he has had going for him. If last year I saw excellent progress and a step forward by him in performance and leadership I would look at it differently. Last year was a pivotal year for the guy and he came up small and it is beginning to look like he can perform okay if the rest of the team is a solid in all areas, something that is fairly rare in todays NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaSteve View Post
    It's not a risky move at all. They have a two year window to win the Super Bowl; if they don't get it, this team gets blown up, and it won't just be Sanchez; there is about 10-12 guys they can get rid of.

    This is how you win; you take what you have and see if it works, you don't change it every five minutes. Will it work? Won't know until the two years are up, but this team is doing it the way you ought to do it.
    No, no risk at all. We have a QB that has shown in his 1st three years that he is a mediocre QB and who looked worse last year in many cases than he had the two years before.

    This is a sign and hope he plays up to his deal with no real evidence that he has progressed over the last 3 years.

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    yes, yes he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    If he is writing something I agree with I'll defend his article if not he deserves to get blasted. Mark Sanchez has dissapointed me more than impressed me in his career considering all he has had going for him. If last year I saw excellent progress and a step forward by him in performance and leadership I would look at it differently. Last year was a pivotal year for the guy and he came up small and it is beginning to look like he can perform okay if the rest of the team is a solid in all areas, something that is fairly rare in todays NFL.
    in his 3 year career, 2009 as a rookie had a stellar post season...2010 had many game winning drives (i believe it was 4 in the reg season and 1 in post season) and another championship game performance and nearly brought us all the way back. and 2011 his plateau year where many factors led to his dissapointing campaign (which included 30 overall TD's btw).

    my point? the hate on sanchez is so out of proportion and out of touch with reality its insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaSteve View Post
    It's not a risky move at all. They have a two year window to win the Super Bowl; if they don't get it, this team gets blown up, and it won't just be Sanchez; there is about 10-12 guys they can get rid of.

    This is how you win; you take what you have and see if it works, you don't change it every five minutes. Will it work? Won't know until the two years are up, but this team is doing it the way you ought to do it.

    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astoria View Post
    Here's what I'm getting from Florio's article. For an extra 2.75 million, the Jets now get 3 team-option years of Sanchez. If he turns out to be good, they will have him at a bargain for those years. If he turns out to suck, it costs only an extra 2.75 million to cut him after this upcoming season than it normally would.
    For that 2.75 million, we get a huge cap savings this year
    Great summary, and good news, 2.75M is nothing if the team has to go back into rebuilding mode and considering the guaranteed salaries committed this year, it made sense to go all in

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