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    Arrow QB dept. : " ranking 10 yrs of 1st-round QBs " .... mark is # ~ ~ ~

    Twenty-seven quarterbacks have been selected in the first round of the draft over the past 10 years.Around the League ranked them from top to bottom. The core criteria is a mix of career achievement and future potential (for instance, Cam Newton at No. 5? You bet, based on what we've seen and what we expect to see).Rosenthal and I engaged in a furious two-minute debate over IM, shifting some guys around, generating some consensus, disagreeing in other areas. We thought we'd throw it your way.

    You're an NFL general manager. Who do you want leading your team ?

    Here's our list :

    1. Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers (No. 11, 2004)
    2. Aaron Rodgers, Packers (No. 24, 2005)
    3. Eli Manning, Chargers (traded to Giants) (No. 1, 2004)
    4. Philip Rivers, Giants (traded to Chargers) (No. 4, 2004)
    5. Cam Newton, Panthers (No. 1, 2011)
    6. Matt Ryan, Falcons (No. 3, 2008)
    7. Matthew Stafford, Lions (No. 1, 2009)
    8. Jay Cutler, Broncos (No. 11, 2006)
    9. Carson Palmer, Bengals (No. 1, 2003)
    10. Sam Bradford, Rams (No. 1, 2010)
    11. Joe Flacco, Ravens (No. 18, 2008)
    12. Mark Sanchez, Jets (No. 5, 2009)
    13. Alex Smith, 49ers (No. 1, 2005)
    14. Josh Freeman, Buccaneers (No. 17, 2009)
    15. Jason Campbell, Redskins (No. 25, 2005)
    16. Vince Young, Titans (No. 3, 2006)
    17. Tim Tebow, Broncos (No. 25, 2010)
    18. Rex Grossman, Bears (No. 22, 2003)
    19. David Carr, Texans (No. 1, 2002)
    20. Byron Leftwich, Jaguars (No. 7, 2003)
    21. Matt Leinart, Cardinals (No. 10, 2006)
    22. Kyle Boller, Ravens (No. 19, 2003)
    23. Brady Quinn, Browns (No. 22, 2007)
    24. Joey Harrington, Lions (No. 3, 2002)
    25. Patrick Ramsey, Redskins (No. 32, 2002)
    26. J.P. Losman, Bills (No. 22, 2004)
    27. JaMarcus Russell, Raiders (No. 1, 2007)

    > http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...content_stream

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    yes ,
    i know we have tim tebow now but we did not draft him

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    Mark gets waaaaayyyy too much flak.

    No one on that list gets **** on more than this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Harris View Post
    Mark gets waaaaayyyy too much flak.

    No one on that list gets **** on more than this guy.
    remember ,
    mark plays for the NEW YORK jets

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    Strange that the article doesn't mention three QB's from 2011's first round

    #8 Jake Locker

    #10 Blaine Gabbert

    #12 Christian Ponder


    though they'd likely be the three entries ahead of JaMarcus Russell
    Last edited by lageman4ever; 04-14-2012 at 05:15 PM.

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    How can Flacco be 11 when he's the best QB in the league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Harris View Post
    Mark gets waaaaayyyy too much flak.

    No one on that list gets **** on more than this guy.
    That's very true. However, another way to look at that is: Every QB after #14 enters the upcoming season as a backup. Sanchez at #12 doesn't exactly say much for him.

    Agree he catches too much heat, but it's time for him to distance himself from the Smiths and Freemans and have the productivity of the Newtons, Ryans & Staffords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lageman4ever View Post
    Strange that the article doesn't mention three QB's from 2011's first round

    #8 Jake Locker

    #10 Blaine Gabbert

    #12 Christian Ponder


    though they'd likely be the three entries ahead of JaMarcus Russell
    " . . . though they'd likely be the three entries ahead of JaMarcus Russell "


    ~ ~ for sure

    jamarcus russell ---> one of the biggest nfl draft busts of all time

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    -Sanchez is a better pure talent than Flacco (and I'm a fan of Flacco, my girlfriend went to U.D. and I saw Flacco's great 2007 playoff run firsthand). Flacco might have a slightly better head on his shoulders.

    -Way too soon to rank Bradford ahead of Sanchez, considering the latter has been able to stay on the field.

    -Palmer is a better talent than Sanchez, but along with Cutler, those two have not exactly been team players. There's an argument at least for a three-way tie on the grounds that Sanchez has always given 150 percent for his franchise and done everything that's been asked of him.

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    Rivers, Ryan, Cutler, Palmer, Bradford have done nothing to justify their ranking above Sanchez.

    Palmer is a proven loser. Shouldn't even be a starter at this point.

    How many more chokes are Rivers, Ryan, and Cutler allowed before critics remove the blinders and cut them down to size?

    Let's be realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetrider View Post
    Rivers, Ryan, Cutler, Palmer, Bradford have done nothing to justify their ranking above Sanchez.

    Palmer is a proven loser. Shouldn't even be a starter at this point.

    How many more chokes are Rivers, Ryan, and Cutler allowed before critics remove the blinders and cut them down to size?

    Let's be realistic.

    I dunno, I have a Sanchez choke, '11. 3 straight losses while in playoff contention. Missed the playoffs completely. Pretty damn horrible, wouldn't you say?
    Last edited by ASG0531; 04-16-2012 at 03:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASG0531 View Post
    I dunno, I have a Sanchez choke, '11. 3 straight losses while in playoff contention. Missed the playoffs completely. Pretty damn horrible, wouldn't you say?
    Yeah, one tanked season by Sanchez (really the OL) compared to many by the other QBs is a pretty lame comparison.

    Wouldn't you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackleem View Post
    -Sanchez is a better pure talent than Flacco (and I'm a fan of Flacco, my girlfriend went to U.D. and I saw Flacco's great 2007 playoff run firsthand). Flacco might have a slightly better head on his shoulders.

    -Way too soon to rank Bradford ahead of Sanchez, considering the latter has been able to stay on the field.

    -Palmer is a better talent than Sanchez, but along with Cutler, those two have not exactly been team players. There's an argument at least for a three-way tie on the grounds that Sanchez has always given 150 percent for his franchise and done everything that's been asked of him.
    +3, agree on all points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycdan View Post
    How can Flacco be 11 when he's the best QB in the league?
    He's so #1 they put it twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackleem View Post
    -Sanchez is a better pure talent than Flacco (and I'm a fan of Flacco, my girlfriend went to U.D. and I saw Flacco's great 2007 playoff run firsthand). Flacco might have a slightly better head on his shoulders.

    -Way too soon to rank Bradford ahead of Sanchez, considering the latter has been able to stay on the field.

    -Palmer is a better talent than Sanchez, but along with Cutler, those two have not exactly been team players. There's an argument at least for a three-way tie on the grounds that Sanchez has always given 150 percent for his franchise and done everything that's been asked of him.
    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetrider View Post
    Rivers, Ryan, Cutler, Palmer, Bradford have done nothing to justify their ranking above Sanchez.

    Palmer is a proven loser. Shouldn't even be a starter at this point.

    How many more chokes are Rivers, Ryan, and Cutler allowed before critics remove the blinders and cut them down to size?

    Let's be realistic.
    Let's be realistic???????

    Sanchez has a few fluke playoff wins with the #1 defense and #1 running game and you immediately think he's a more talented QB than Rivers, Cutler, Palmer and Bradford?

    Yea, that's a very realistic viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Let's be realistic???????

    Sanchez has a few fluke playoff wins with the #1 defense and #1 running game and you immediately think he's a more talented QB than Rivers, Cutler, Palmer and Bradford?

    Yea, that's a very realistic viewpoint.
    They only had the 1 d and running game in Sanchez's rookie year.

    Not to mention that he threw for 3 tds at New Englad in 2010. Some fluke that was

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Let's be realistic???????

    Sanchez has a few fluke playoff wins with the #1 defense and #1 running game and you immediately think he's a more talented QB than Rivers, Cutler, Palmer and Bradford?

    Yea, that's a very realistic viewpoint.
    mark had us in the afc championship game his first two yrs in the nfl.



    cool ~ ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly View Post
    mark had us in the afc championship game his first two yrs in the nfl.
    No, the Jets defense and running game had them in the AFCCG.

    The only thing Sanchez did was go along for the ride.

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    Attack Palmer or Bradford but you are nuts if you put Sanchez in the same category of Ryan, Rivers or Cutler

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