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    Will accept more input and coach more agressively. No announced move in duties.

    Bucs still stonewalling on Marinelli. Lynn was interviewed for D secondary position only.

    Gleaned from Ledger

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    thanks SD, some good (Lynn) some bad (Hacker) some I'm not sure what I think (Marinelli). B)

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    Herm has a somewhat contradiction in philosophy, here, and I am not sure what he is trying to do here:

    Herm preches, preaches, preaches, not to make mistakes, mental or overt. Included in these are penalties and not commiting turnovers.

    Well, the byproduct of being more agressive often times is that you will turn the ball over. It is just the natural byproduct.

    Unless he is willing to accept that gamble, I am not sure he is going to get what he wants, or I don't understand what he wants by "more agressive"

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    SD- you are wrong about LYnn see post article

    January 6, 2004 -- The Jets' search for a new defensive coordinator continued yesterday with Giants' defensive coordinator Johnnie Lynn spending time with Herman Edwards at Weeb Ewbank Hall.
    Lynn is the second candidate to interview with more to come. But signs are growing stronger by the day that Gregg Williams, who interviewed over the weekend, will replace deposed Ted Cottrell to run the Jets' defense.

    Williams, who recently was fired as the Bills' head coach, is believed to have moved to the head of the list as the favorite, because Tampa Bay assistant head coach/defensive line coach Rod Marinelli might be untouchable. Williams' attacking style of defense, which had the Bills ranked second in the NFL this season, seems to be a good fit for the way Edwards wants to play.

    According to multiple sources in Tampa, Buccaneers' ownership is stalling on any requests for permission to talk to Marinelli or any of their other assistants until they fill their vacant general manager position.

    It's also believed at this point that Marinelli, supposedly Edwards' first choice to be his defensive coordinator and a coach Edwards pursued before hiring Cottrell three years ago, will not be let out of the final year remaining on his contract, and if he is, he might go with former Bucs' assistant Lovie Smith if the Rams' current defensive coordinator is hired as the Falcons' head coach.

    Edwards is scheduled to interview Giants' DL coach Denny Marcin today for the team's vacant DL coach position.

    The Jets are also expected to interview Titans' LBs coach Gunther Cunningham and Eagles' LBs coach Ron Rivera.



    As for the Bucs' GM search, Jets' assistant GM and salary cap specialist Mike Tannenbaum was in Tampa to interview for that same position he turned down two years ago during Bill Parcells' flirtation with the Bucs.

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    afos-I got mine from njo and they SPECIFICALLY said Lynn was in for D secondary position, whil yoiur article says nothing SPECIFICALLY about where Lynn was interviewing.

    Other position coaches (rather than D Coordinator) were also interviewed.

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    I keep forgetting that we have four and might end up with five (Sutton, the LB coach) coaching vacancies on our defensive staff. Lynn might not be a bad D-backs coach, and if we don't get Marinelli or Williams, Herm might have to make his own picks for each position. I know he said otherwise, but I have to think that if we dilly and dally too long and guys like Williams and Marinelli go elsewhere, Sutton gets considered. Sutton moving up means we would still need four defensive coaches.

    Hackett will accept more input...????

    Not sure I understand this. Hasn't he been receiving more input all along? I thought Jimmy Raye was giving him input?

    One game last year, Herm called up to Hackett after another failed third down running play, and he told Hackett that if he sees another running play on third down he (Herm) was going to be sick. The next possession when we had a third down, Hackett called a pass and converted the third down. He then called down to Herm and asked him if he liked that better, to which Herm responded "much."

    I guess Hackett better get used to more calls from the sidelines huh?

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    SD- First sentence i believe.

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    Why is Herm Interviewing D position coaches, shouldn't DC when hired
    be doing this?

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    Originally posted by afosomf@Jan 6 2004, 09:30 AM
    SD- First sentence i believe.
    Check NJO, bub.

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    Originally posted by afosomf@Jan 6 2004, 09:32 AM
    Why is Herm Interviewing D position coaches, shouldn't DC when hired
    be doing this?
    lOptions, options, options.

    Who says that the D coordinator coming in will necessarily have the right to everyone he wants?

    You'd rather they wait and get caught behind?

    AS GJH said ABC.

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    SD- it doesn't make sense that Lynn would be intervewing for DB coach
    when he was a DC, albeit a terrible one.

    again why is sqerm making these interviews, let GW pick his D staff.

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    Kinda explains why he uses Mel Kiper as his Avitar.

    here's the entire story from the ledger:



    Jets keeping flexible Hackett


    Tuesday, January 06, 203

    BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
    Star-Ledger Staff

    Jets coach Herman Edwards has met with beleaguered offensive coordinator Paul Hackett and "they're fine," a club official said yesterday. Hackett will return next season, but he apparently has agreed to Edwards' insistence on having more offensive input.

    Hackett was thought to be safe because of his close relationship with quarterback Chad Pennington, but Edwards -- as part of his staff housecleaning -- is determined to have more input and to surround himself with assistants who reflect his philosophies.

    That means more risk-taking on offense and defense. Hackett, in order to return, had to agree to Edwards' terms, a person with knowledge of the meeting said.

    Meanwhile, Edwards has not received permission from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to talk to assistant head coach Rod Marinelli, but that hasn't stopped the search for a defensive coordinator. Edwards interviewed former Giants coordinator Johnnie Lynn yesterday.

    The Jets have three defensive coach openings -- coordinator, defensive line and secondary --
    and Lynn could end up being a candidate for secondary coach. Former Giants defensive line coach Denny Marcin will meet with Edwards today, possibly about the coordinator's job, but Marcin is likely to end up as a candidate for the d-line job.

    Edwards is expected to talk to Ravens secondary coach Donnie Anderson this week about the defensive coordinator's job.

    With the Bucs dragging their feet, former Buffalo Bills coach Gregg Williams is the front-runner to replace Ted Cottrell as defensive coordinator. Edwards already has met with Williams, who would be a good fit because he favors an aggressive, blitz-oriented style of play that Edwards is seeking. Williams, 45, also knows the AFC East.

    The Bucs interviewed Jets assistant general manager Mike Tannenbaum yesterday. They probably won't make a decision on Marinelli until a new GM is in place. Raiders senior assistant Bruce Allen is the favorite to get that job.

    Marinelli could be buying time to see if St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Lovie Smith gets a head-coaching job. Marinelli, close to Smith, could join his staff.

    Titans linebackers coach Gunther Cunningham and Eagles linebacker coach Ron Rivera also are on the list of coaching candidates, but their teams are in the playoffs.


    Good Catch Scott. Oh & Afosomf, here's the link:
    Jets keeping flexible Hackett

    Now if only Hackett lives up to what Herm wants... :blink:

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    Originally posted by Jet Fumes@Jan 6 2004, 09:30 AM
    Hackett will accept more input...????

    Not sure I understand this. Hasn't he been receiving more input all along? I thought Jimmy Raye was giving him input?

    One game last year, Herm called up to Hackett after another failed third down running play, and he told Hackett that if he sees another running play on third down he (Herm) was going to be sick. The next possession when we had a third down, Hackett called a pass and converted the third down. He then called down to Herm and asked him if he liked that better, to which Herm responded "much."

    I guess Hackett better get used to more calls from the sidelines huh?
    Hackett is blowing smoke up Herm's butt.......he's saying that now but once the 2004 is kicked off, he will go back to his boring, predictable self.........

    He knows after his nauseating year, no other team will hire him.........he can go and sit with Kotite and watch the games together on TV............ :[img]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

    If Hackett gets to run our offense again this year......look for another disappointing season folks!

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    Thanks Baumer-Always appreciated.

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    Baumer- it states that all are interviewng for DC not position coaches.Let GW make decisions on his staff.

    I see problems looming if Herm forces his staff down GW throat.

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    Originally posted by Scott Dierking@Jan 6 2004, 09:39 AM
    Thanks Baumer-Always appreciated.
    Scott, it's allways better to show your sources than to bluff...

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    Originally posted by Scott Dierking@Jan 6 2004, 09:24 AM
    Herm has a somewhat contradiction in philosophy, here, and I am not sure what he is trying to do here:

    Herm preches, preaches, preaches, not to make mistakes, mental or overt. Included in these are penalties and not commiting turnovers.

    Well, the byproduct of being more agressive often times is that you will turn the ball over. It is just the natural byproduct.

    Unless he is willing to accept that gamble, I am not sure he is going to get what he wants, or I don't understand what he wants by "more agressive"
    Herm preaches no mistakes, but he never preached not taking chances. Read up on him some more... even Dungy knows Herm likes to gamble. In fact, Herm was surprised during their game with the Colts cause Dungy called a trick play or two... generally Edwards has been known as the dice thrower, and Dungy was the Anti-Chance taker.

    He wants no mistakes (McGlockton jumping offsides and grabbing a facemask all at once), but he has always said he wanted to see some more long passes. In fact, it was Herm that equated a long pass getting intercepted to a punt... same result assuming the man gets tackled after he makes the INT. I am certain he doesn't want several INT's thrown in a game, but we threw what, five, against the Pats and they still only scored 21 points.

    What Edwards wants is a bad ass defense that can hold the opposition down no matter what predicament the offense gets the defense into. He wants to be more aggressive on both sides of the ball.
    He wants to go for the throat sometimes like everyone else always does to us.

    He is willing to accept the INT's offensively, or the long TD's defensively... assuming they don't become the norm.

    What is better....???

    Two quickly scored td's and a defense with 5 sacks, or two long scoring drives and no sacks all day long...???

    Besides... a few incompleted long pass plays will probably draw a couple of pass interference calls.

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    Originally posted by afosomf@Jan 6 2004, 09:40 AM
    Baumer- it states that all are interviewng for DC not position coaches.Let GW make decisions on his staff.

    I see problems looming if Herm forces his staff down GW throat.
    It also states & I Quote:

    The Jets have three defensive coach openings -- coordinator, defensive line and secondary -- and Lynn could end up being a candidate for secondary coach.


    <span style='color:green'>If I see it correctly, Hutchinson is of the belief - as am I - that Johnny Lynn is being touted as a candiate for our new SECONDARY COACH. That&#39;s the position he played when he was on our team & it fits him better than that of Coordinator.

    afosomf, just as I posted previously - not this post - I think Herm is looking to take TOTAL CONTROL of the team in 2004.

    That means no COORDINATOR/ASSISTANT HEAD COACHING positions in 04&#39;&#33;

    Simply put - If he looses this year, it&#39;s all Herm&#39;s fault at the TOP.


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    Originally posted by BaumerJet+Jan 6 2004, 09:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BaumerJet @ Jan 6 2004, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--afosomf@Jan 6 2004, 09:40 AM
    Baumer- it states that all are interviewng for DC not position coaches.Let GW make decisions on his staff.

    I see problems looming if Herm forces his staff down GW throat.
    It also states & I Quote:

    The Jets have three defensive coach openings -- coordinator, defensive line and secondary -- and Lynn could end up being a candidate for secondary coach.


    <span style='color:green'>If I see it correctly, Hutchinson is of the belief - as am I - that Johnny Lynn is being touted as a candiate for our new SECONDARY COACH. That&#39;s the position he played when he was on our team & it fits him better than that of Coordinator.

    afosomf, just as I posted previously - not this post - I think Herm is looking to take TOTAL CONTROL of the team in 2004.

    That means no COORDINATOR/ASSISTANT HEAD COACHING positions in 04&#39;&#33;

    Simply put - If he looses this year, it&#39;s all Herm&#39;s fault at the TOP.


    </span> [/b][/quote]
    agree-He has been given enough slack of rope now, but it is also his rope to hang himself.

    That&#39;s all any coach wants, though.

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    I don&#39;t see why guys would be surprised that Herm is interviewing for position coaches, you can&#39;t really think he is going to let a coordinator dictate his staff. My bet is whoever the DC is gets to bring in one guy he really likes, otherwise Herm is the decision maker.

    As others said it puts the heat on Herm, but that&#39;s the way it should be, it&#39;s all on Herm this year, makes it easier to sort out the problems or successes.

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