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    Law: Belichick 'lies to support his family'


    Cornerback Ty Law ripped into Patriots coach Bill Belichick on the James Brown Show on Sporting News Radio, saying the coach is "paid to lie sometimes, because that's how he supports his family."

    Law says he can't imagine returning to the Super Bowl-champion Patriots after how the recent negotiations over a contract extension have gone.

    "I don't feel comfortable in this place," Law said. " If people think that it can just be resolved with money, it can't."

    James Brown: "Where did things go wrong in that discussion with Bill Belichick?"

    Ty Law: "It first went wrong when he asked me if I wanted to be there. I specifically told him that I want to be there, if he wants me to be. I don't want to be there if he doesn't look at me as a player to keep around for the future. It's plain and simple. No problem. No hard feelings. ...

    "Throughout the conversation, I realized more and more that they had no intentions of letting me retire as a New England Patriot. That's when I knew I had to do something about it. It's unfair to me, to come in for a one-year deal, when within the organization, I was told that they had no intentions for me to play that well. People in the front office, the back office, within the organization, I don't want to say any name in particular, they told me, 'Ty, no matter what happens, especially after what happened to Lawyer (Milloy), you're out there auditioning for 29 other teams. You know how they operate around here and we wish you the best.'

    "I don't feel comfortable in this place. I don't feel like this is a situation that either of us can prosper from. It's best for us to break ties and move forward, no problem. I had nine great years as a Patriot. Personally, behind the scenes it has not been all that great all the time. ... I knew for the last two years, possibly three, that they were just waiting for me to go down, waiting for me not to have the type of year that I had, so they can justify letting me go. When that comes from so deep in the organization and you still have to play up on it, because I'm obligated to that contract, that's just uncomfortable for me."

    James Brown: "Is this a situation that's reconcilable, can this be resolved?"

    Ty Law: "It can't. If people think that it can just be resolved with money, it can't. Like I said, I'm willing to give them money. Instead of you paying me my salary I'll pay you, and free up $23 million for you. It's definitely not about money and I don't think it can be reconciled. That's not what I am out for. I have that already. It can't be a comfortable working atmosphere. I think we just need to part ways while we're ahead. We can leave out as champions on both ends."

    James Brown: "Did Lawyer Milloy tell you at any point during the season to expect the same thing to happen to you? If not, were you expecting this day to come?"

    Ty Law: "He definitely said to expect same thing. I knew every conversation that they had. He feels that Coach Belichick lied to him too, to his face. I guess you get paid to lie sometimes, because that's how he supports his family. Actually, I already knew the situation with Lawyer and we thought that maybe I would go first."

    James Brown: "What is your defense, Ty Law, that you are not a selfish person at all? Are there any examples that you can point definitively to?"

    Ty Law: (sarcastically) "Yes, if I'm selfish, to give you a good example is when after our Super Bowl run, Tom Brady was going through his whole contract thing. It was beginning to become a major distraction through our championship. This was the first Super Bowl. So, I myself, without anybody asking me, without anyone contacting my agent, I went to Coach Belichick myself.

    "After one of the practices I told Coach if he needed some help; I understand that I have a high cap number, one of the higher cap numbers on the team. In order to put this under the table, I said 'I know you guys are working to get Tom Brady done and a couple of other guys, I will re-work some of my numbers for you no problem. As long as I'm making my money that I am supposed to make this year, then go ahead and rework some of these numbers so you can get these guys done and we can defend our championship.' "

    James Brown: "Wait a minute, you went to them and offered to rework your deal, so they could sign Tom Brady and others?"

    Ty Law: "Right. I went to him (Belichick). He didn't come to me. I offered my contract, my money, to help the team. People don't hear about that. After all that went on, we talked a little bit and he said we are going to try to work on it. Then he came to me during the Pittsburgh game that week. He tapped me on the shoulder at breakfast and said, 'I need to take to you up on that offer.' So, I said, 'Fine, no problem.' I can't remember if Tom was done at the time or what, but he needed to work the numbers to get some guys signed. That's when I reworked $2.7 million of my salary. I reworked it and I played with it. I didn't say, 'Give it to me now,' like a lot of guys do. ...

    "I did that and he took me up on that. Nothing else was ever said about that, but now, I am a selfish player. That was strictly for the team, but now it's come down to me being able to protect myself. All that I am asking them to do, is at the time, if they wanted me there, prove me wrong for what I have already known and what everyone has told me prior to us having that discussion. To quote, but I can not give a name, 'He did not expect you to play as well as you did.' "



    You don't have to go further than the Hess family to know what a low life lying worm belibumbles is.
    Hopefully, while Lynch is "dining" at the Ground Round with belibumbles and his puppet he sees right through these clowns.

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    I would love to see the Jets pick him up after he becomes the second two leave of the Law in NE. Its too bad they treat the players the way they do but they do have two more championships than we do in the last decade.

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    Yawn, dude's just trying to get his walking papers. I'm sure he has a contract already signed with another team but has to get released. That's tampering by the way.

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    Originally posted by huskeralk@Mar 17 2004, 10:49 PM
    Yawn, dude's just trying to get his walking papers. I'm sure he has a contract already signed with another team but has to get released. That's tampering by the way.
    LOL, yeah, "yawn," Pastryhomerville hates talking about anything negative...

    In their world...

    Everything is just fine.

    Losing Ted Washington and Woody are upgrades by subtraction.

    Losing Law is no big deal. They have 400 draft picks this year.

    In BB they trust...

    Tra la la la laaaa

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    Originally posted by Ray Ray19@Mar 17 2004, 09:59 PM
    LOL, yeah, "yawn," Pastryhomerville hates talking about anything negative...

    In their world...

    Everything is just fine.

    Losing Ted Washington and Woody are upgrades by subtraction.

    Losing Law is no big deal. They have 400 draft picks this year.

    In BB they trust...

    Tra la la la laaaa
    I'll gladly talk about it. I want the greedy bastard gone like yesterday and that is the honest to god truth. I never said it would be no big deal to lose him but there comes a time when enough is enough.

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    i agree with you! get rid of him, he is greedy and he sucks.. lmao..

    you guys are going to get burned bad next year not only by mccareins but Boston will eat you up.. loosing heart in the secondary. wont help you!

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    Originally posted by daJETfan@Mar 17 2004, 10:26 PM
    i agree with you! get rid of him, he is greedy and he sucks.. lmao..

    you guys are going to get burned bad next year not only by mccareins but Boston will eat you up.. loosing heart in the secondary. wont help you!
    Hey, there comes a time. I think if the shoe was on the other foot some of you would feel the same way. The 49ers. won't be as good without TO but there comes a time when it just isn't worth the trouble anymore.

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    I agree Husk, Asante "Ray Mickens" Samuels will hold it down anyway next year.

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    Originally posted by huskeralk+Mar 17 2004, 11:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (huskeralk @ Mar 17 2004, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--daJETfan@Mar 17 2004, 10:26 PM
    i agree with you&#33; get rid of him, he is greedy and he sucks.. lmao..

    you guys are going to get burned bad next year not only by mccareins but Boston will eat you up.. loosing heart in the secondary. wont help you&#33;
    Hey, there comes a time. I think if the shoe was on the other foot some of you would feel the same way. The 49ers. won&#39;t be as good without TO but there comes a time when it just isn&#39;t worth the trouble anymore. [/b][/quote]
    Wahhhh, Wahhhh, Wahhh.......

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    Originally posted by pope@Mar 17 2004, 10:31 PM
    I agree Husk, Asante "Ray Mickens" Samuels will hold it down anyway next year.
    I don&#39;t recall saying that Pope but you would make a great fictional author with a little.....ok alot of practice.

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    Unrest in Patriot land is good for the soul. Tom Brady is a greedy bastard, Ty Law loves promoting his selfless image, Belichick (who went to Wesleyan, my school (but I still hate him)) is a liar (lol, arent we all). At least it is SOMETHING to laugh at of the Pats, who usually make little or no errors on the field or off the field. As I said before, good for the soul.

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    Originally posted by wickedtwisted@Mar 17 2004, 10:46 PM
    I would love to see the Jets pick him up after he becomes the second two leave of the Law in NE. Its too bad they treat the players the way they do but they do have two more championships than we do in the last decade.
    "Too bad they treat their players this way"? Are you kidding? They&#39;ve given their players, and fans, 2 championships in 3 years&#33;&#33; The way the organization plays is the way sports is right now. Thank free agency for this. And that&#39;s something the players wanted.

    T.O. cries and throws a paddy so ends up back in Philly&#33;? :blink:
    I&#39;m getting sick and tired of today&#39;s player who doesn&#39;t like today&#39;s rules (even though it is there to help him get more &#036;&#036;&#036

    I work for &#036;25000 helping people with disabilities every single day of my life. I&#39;m sick of these players complaining they need to put "food on their table". It&#39;s like Patrick Ewing so stupidly said, "we may earn a lot money, but we spend a lot of money."

    Away you and lie in yer pish.

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    How the treat their players???? THEY PAY THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PLAY A GAME&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; What do they want? oral sex?? Jesus..why isn&#39;t insane monitary compensation enough???

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    Originally posted by huskeralk+Mar 17 2004, 11:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (huskeralk @ Mar 17 2004, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ray Ray19@Mar 17 2004, 09:59 PM
    LOL, yeah, "yawn," Pastryhomerville hates talking about anything negative...

    In their world...

    Everything is just fine.

    Losing Ted Washington and Woody are upgrades by subtraction.

    Losing Law is no big deal. They have 400 draft picks this year.

    In BB they trust...

    Tra la la la laaaa
    I&#39;ll gladly talk about it. I want the greedy bastard gone like yesterday and that is the honest to god truth. I never said it would be no big deal to lose him but there comes a time when enough is enough. [/b][/quote]
    Why are you incapable of even QUESTIONING the actions of the Patriot F.O.?

    Law has been a dedicated, all pro player.
    Unlike T.O., Law has never attempted to become the center of attention to the detriment of his teammates.
    While Patriot management successfully replaced Milloy, they did DUMP him after year&#39;s of quaility service.

    Yes, the Patriots have won 2 superbowls in the last 3 years. But does that give the front office a free pass as to all personnel decisions?

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    Does anyone seriously think he would play for free as he stated? And a 2.7M paycut is nothing when you have the largest CB contract in all of football for many years.

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    Originally posted by HBJet@Mar 17 2004, 11:42 PM
    Why are you incapable of even QUESTIONING the actions of the Patriot F.O.?

    Law has been a dedicated, all pro player.
    Unlike T.O., Law has never attempted to become the center of attention to the detriment of his teammates.
    While Patriot management successfully replaced Milloy, they did DUMP him after year&#39;s of quaility service.

    Yes, the Patriots have won 2 superbowls in the last 3 years. But does that give the front office a free pass as to all personnel decisions?
    Do I really even need to answer that? I have questioned the Patriots&#39; FO plenty in the past, even with the Milloy issue but more times than not, everything works out for the best. Ty Law hasn&#39;t been a model citizen his entire career. All you have to do is look back to Milloy&#39;s release to see that. Yes, they did dump Milloy after all those years but they didn&#39;t have much choice. They were over the cap and he would not renegotiate. Sound familiar?

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    Originally posted by huskeralk+Mar 18 2004, 01:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (huskeralk @ Mar 18 2004, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--HBJet@Mar 17 2004, 11:42 PM
    Why are you incapable of even QUESTIONING the actions of the Patriot F.O.?

    Law has been a dedicated, all pro player.
    Unlike T.O., Law has never attempted to become the center of attention to the detriment of his teammates.
    While Patriot management successfully replaced Milloy, they did DUMP him after year&#39;s of quaility service.

    Yes, the Patriots have won 2 superbowls in the last 3 years. But does that give the front office a free pass as to all personnel decisions?
    Do I really even need to answer that? I have questioned the Patriots&#39; FO plenty in the past, even with the Milloy issue but more times than not, everything works out for the best. Ty Law hasn&#39;t been a model citizen his entire career. All you have to do is look back to Milloy&#39;s release to see that. Yes, they did dump Milloy after all those years but they didn&#39;t have much choice. They were over the cap and he would not renegotiate. Sound familiar? [/b][/quote]
    The statement "They were over the cap and he would not renegotiate" is management spin.

    Both Milloy and Law have a different spin.

    As for it all working out for the best, for years Mike Shanahan was immune from criticism because of his 2 SB trophies, but if Denver can&#39;t run the ball effectively this season, check out a Denver fan board.

    Same can be said for John Gruden, his 2 year old superbowl trophy isn&#39;t going to insulate him from attack if the Bucs let go of Sapp and Lynch and their defense leaks.

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    Originally posted by huskeralk@Mar 17 2004, 09:01 PM
    I want the greedy bastard gone like yesterday and that is the honest to god truth. I never said it would be no big deal to lose him but there comes a time when enough is enough.
    I don&#39;t know if Law ever took the 2.7 million dollar paycut.

    But if he did, you cannot call him a greedy bastard.

    So far the Patsies FO has done a great job. But first Milloy situation & now Ty Law, at this rate, not many FA&#39;s would want to play for the Patsies.

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    Originally posted by JetsFanInDenver@Mar 18 2004, 01:22 AM
    So far the Patsies FO has done a great job. But first Milloy situation & now Ty Law, at this rate, not many FA&#39;s would want to play for the Patsies.
    I&#39;m not trying to brag but FAs always want to play for the super bowl champions or will at least give it a strong consideration.

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    1 thing I noticed it said "29 other teams". There&#39;s 31 other teams not 29.

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