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    Sure, Brien did an admirable job last season, but the guy has no range and made some key errors. There's a reason this guy's been bounced around from team to team for as long as he had. It's inexcusable that a team as historically atrocious inside the red zone as the jets hasn't had an accurate kicker with 50 yard range in recent memory. Nate Kaeding could be an elite kicker for the next 15 years, and the compensatory 4th round pick would be well spent on him, especially if we trade down for carey, vilma, or dj williams and can pick up an LB or CB in the 2nd round.

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    What key errors did Brien make? The OT game against the Giants where he was forced to rush the kick really wasn't his fault. I don't really think he made any key errors, Brien was very solid. 4th rounder on a kicker no thanks. I was suggesting a 5th on a punter a while back and got bashed for it, wonder what happened to all those posters.

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    Originally posted by detr0@Apr 11 2004, 05:11 PM
    Sure, Brien did an admirable job last season, but the guy has no range and made some key errors. There's a reason this guy's been bounced around from team to team for as long as he had. It's inexcusable that a team as historically atrocious inside the red zone as the jets hasn't had an accurate kicker with 50 yard range in recent memory. Nate Kaeding could be an elite kicker for the next 15 years, and the compensatory 4th round pick would be well spent on him, especially if we trade down for carey, vilma, or dj williams and can pick up an LB or CB in the 2nd round.
    id love to have him here...but i wouldnt wanna spend a 4th rder on him because we have a lot of needs

    if he slips to the 5th or 6th, then yes, definitely

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    Originally posted by StonerJet 63@Apr 11 2004, 06:53 PM
    What key errors did Brien make? The OT game against the Giants where he was forced to rush the kick really wasn't his fault. I don't really think he made any key errors, Brien was very solid. 4th rounder on a kicker no thanks. I was suggesting a 5th on a punter a while back and got bashed for it, wonder what happened to all those posters.
    FROM SCOUTS, INC.

    NATE KAEDING
    PK | (6'0", 187, 5.2) | IOWA | COLLEGE STATS
    Data from Scouts, Inc.

    Comments: Kaeding has adequate size, fine athlete. Will get downfield, chase on kickoffs. Has best combination of accuracy, leg strength in the 2004 class. Very good range, accuracy. Consistent, mechanically sound, clutch kicker. Ideal mentality for a kicker. Must work on overall consistency, placement skills. Kaeding was Iowa's place kicker since his freshman season in 2000. As a junior, Kaeding averaged made 21-of-24 attempts. As a senior, he was 20-of-21. Kaeding is not only the best place kicker in this years' draft class, he's also the best kickoff specialist. Kaeding should be the first specialist to come off the board, likely in the fourth or fifth rounds.


    He was rushed, but he didn't adjust his pre-kick ritual to the situation. And in the kicking business, one key error is one too many. It's mostly the range that gets me though. He forced many a 4th down conversion attempt or short punt last year with his weak leg. Not a knock on him really, he did great, but he just doesn't have the tools that Kaeding has. And shoring up an all pro kicker for the next 15 years is not something to be overlooked. He's a sure thing, even more so than Gallery or Manning, it's just that he's a kicker, so nobody tends to give a crap. Rather spend a mid to late round pick on him than the next Alex van Dyke, at any rate.

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    Originally posted by detr0@Apr 12 2004, 12:09 AM
    Rather spend a mid to late round pick on him than the next Alex van Dyke, at any rate.
    Or Laverneus Coles, Anquan Boldin, Brandon Llyod....

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    Originally posted by TheBrodyMan+Apr 11 2004, 08:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheBrodyMan @ Apr 11 2004, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--detr0@Apr 12 2004, 12:09 AM
    Rather spend a mid to late round pick on him than the next Alex van Dyke, at any rate.
    Or Laverneus Coles, Anquan Boldin, Brandon Llyod.... [/b][/quote]
    Yeah, but that&#39;s just it, you don&#39;t know. 4th-5th round picks are a gamble, but Kaeding isn&#39;t. I understand the high-risk/high-reward philosophy, even advocate it most of the time, but every once in a while when you can fix a problem for the next decade and know exactly what you&#39;re getting, maybe you consider pulling the trigger. He&#39;s the best kicking prospect since Janikowski, without being a crazy alcoholic Pole. And i&#39;d even take Jano with all that baggage. This makes sense to me.

    Plus, if you can&#39;t say that kickoffs were a problem last year, you&#39;re not being honest with yourself. Everybody wants a 1200 yard 9 td receiver diamond in the rough, but nobody wants to tie up the little things that so often make or break games.

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    Hey, Mel Kiper, Jr. in his latest 3rd round mock has Kaeding going with the THIRD PICK IN THE THIRD ROUND, one slot ahead of Maurice Clarett. And you want to see if he&#39;s around in the 6th or 7th? What a jerkass.....

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    4th or 7th whats the difference?

    If you get a player to help your team it&#39;s a successful pick.

    Remember the draft position of a player is not a direct result of their ability

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    Originally posted by Dalco.uk@Apr 13 2004, 10:04 AM
    4th or 7th whats the difference?

    If you get a player to help your team it&#39;s a successful pick.

    Remember the draft position of a player is not a direct result of their ability
    There are much better prospects available in round four than in round seven. The oppostunity cost of taking a kicker in round four is huge.

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    Originally posted by detr0+Apr 11 2004, 08:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (detr0 @ Apr 11 2004, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--StonerJet 63@Apr 11 2004, 06:53 PM
    What key errors did Brien make? The OT game against the Giants where he was forced to rush the kick really wasn&#39;t his fault. I don&#39;t really think he made any key errors, Brien was very solid. 4th rounder on a kicker no thanks. I was suggesting a 5th on a punter a while back and got bashed for it, wonder what happened to all those posters.
    He was rushed, but he didn&#39;t adjust his pre-kick ritual to the situation. [/b][/quote]
    I agree, but if you&#39;re gonna ask your kicker to kick a 51 yard game winner in a grudge match game in overtime, get him on the field with more than 12 seconds on the play clock&#33;&#33;&#33; Sorry, I&#39;m still very bitter about each and every one of Herm&#39;s mindless clock blunders since he arrived.

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    tough, herm&#39;s not going anywhere, so get over it and address player needs

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