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    Good Job by NFL.

    Clark Judge
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    Look for the NFL to end its 10-year arrangement with Madison Square Garden and change locations for next spring's draft, with New York City's Javits Center the most likely destination.


    Ben Roethlisberger strikes a familiar draft pose from Madison Square Garden.(Getty Images)
    Sources close to one of the league's 32 clubs said the NFL decided not to renew its contract with Madison Square Garden after Charles and James Dolan, the father-son team that owns TV giant Cablevision and the Garden, lobbied against the New York Jets' proposed stadium on the West Side.

    While no decision has been made, NFL sources confirmed talks are under way to move the site of the draft and indicated that the Javits Center is "one possibility." Others, however, insisted the Javits Center not only is the leading candidate but will be the site of April's draft.

    "Our contract with the Garden has expired," a league spokesman said, "and we're in the process of evaluating our options."

    The move makes senses for two reasons: First, the league supports the Jets' proposal to build a 75,000-seat arena on the West Side. Second, the Dolans don't, which means the league cannot -- or should not -- be involved in events sponsored or owned by the family.

    Which eliminates Madison Square Garden.

    Here's the problem for the Dolans: The Garden, which is only three blocks from the site of the proposed stadium, is an entertainment monopoly that stands to lose megabucks with the arrival of a state-of-the art domed facility, a project that would involve the expansion of the Javits Center. So they oppose it.

    Here's the problem for the league: It cannot stage one of its biggest events -- the draft -- in a venue owned by an attack dog of one of its member clubs. The Jets plan to pump $800 million of their own money into a proposed stadium and are in a war of TV ads with the Dolans. So the league sides with them.

    That makes a resolution easy for next April. The NFL does not renew its agreement with the Dolan-owned Garden and looks for another site. The Javits Center is it.

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    Ha! Ha! Ha! Good for those POS Dolan's. These guys are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the planet. The screw the consumer with their cable rates and ticket prices and try to act like concerned citizens with regard to the stadium issue. All they care about is the almighty $. This is just the beginning for them. Once the stadium goes up major events will flee from MSG and those thieves will lose a ton of money. It could not happen to a nicer pair of money grubbers.

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    This was rumoured several months ago. I hope it happens.

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    ha! Paybacks are a biatch! :lol:

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    "F" the Dolan's!

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    Good, Dolans suck.

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    how much money do you think the Dolans make from hosting the draft? If I had to guess, I'd say not much.

    If the Dolans prevent the construction of Jets stadium in Manhattan and lose hosting the NFL draft, trust me they'll take it and still come out winners.

    F THE DOLANS

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    dude, this is like 3 months old. already posted and discussed. i think everyone here hates the dolans, most of us are knicks and/or rangers fans...

    http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/index.ph...topic=32657&hl=

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    Jimmy will lose his biggest money maker when the new Jets Stadium is built.

    NFL NOW, WWF NEXT. :lol:

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    maybe they'll have to sell off the knicks... a silver lining!!

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    Originally posted by isired@Jan 31 2005, 01:49 PM
    dude, this is like 3 months old. already posted and discussed. i think everyone here hates the dolans, most of us are knicks and/or rangers fans...

    http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/index.ph...topic=32657&hl=
    What's the matter, You and Assemblyman Gottfried getting the sweats.

    Jimmy boy Dolan is only going to bankroll your cause up to a certain point.

    Those anti-Stadium meetings you attend are gonna get pretty empty soon.

    Even the shill Ferrer will be a no show when this issue starts to die.

    My anti-Dolan posts will continue!

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    i'm all for anti-dolan posts - i think we'd be in much better shape if they had never stuck their beaks into it. many people who don't know/comprehend the facts see the 'evil dolans' on one side, and immediately join the other.

    they're f*cking up the program!!!

    my prob is rehashing old news - but i'll give you a pass b/c you're new here.

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    I asked this in a thread yesterday, you could have posted this there. I`m glad to hear the NFL will follow through with what they said three months ago about moving the draft...

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    N.F.L. Is Seeking New Home for Draft
    By DAMON HACK

    Published: February 11, 2005


    he National Football League has pulled its annual draft from Madison Square Garden, citing a dispute with Cablevision, which owns the Garden and opposes the building of a new stadium for the Jets on the West Side of Manhattan.

    "Is the dispute over the Jets stadium an issue or a factor? Our comment is, 'Yes, it's a factor,' " Greg Aiello, an N.F.L. spokesman, said in a telephone interview yesterday. "The contract we have with the Garden is up. We have not finalized any contract for the 2005 draft, so we are continuing to explore different venues. We expect to have it resolved in the next couple of weeks."

    Barry Watkins, a spokesman for the Garden, had no comment yesterday.

    The league's decision, first reported Wednesday on SI.com, the Sports Illustrated Web Site, ends a decade-old relationship between the league and the Garden, which was host to the N.F.L. draft for the first time in 1995 when the event moved from the Marriott Marquis to the larger Theater at Madison Square Garden.

    League officials, Aiello said, had held internal discussions about a possible move from the Garden in recent years as the draft, which is usually in late April, began attracting more fans than the 5,600-seat Theater could hold (several rows of the Theater's seats are roped off for members of the news media, including those for ESPN's live coverage).

    In 2003, as the league and the Jets began a strong push for the proposed $1.4 billion stadium with the use of Joe Namath as a pitchman on radio commercials, the Cablevision-backed New York Association for Better Choices ran its own ads mocking the expense of the stadium.

    Last week, Cablevision offered to pay the Metropolitan Transportation Authority $600 million for the right to build office buildings and housing at the 13-acre West Side rail yards where the stadium has been proposed. The offer includes the cost of a $250 million deck over the yards for the development.

    The Jets have offered the M.T.A. $100 million for the land, with the city and state splitting the deck's cost. The authority has asked the Jets to pay $300 million for the property.

    The Garden, with the Knicks and the Rangers, has long been the center of professional sports in Manhattan, a position that a new stadium on the West Side could threaten. The West Side facilities might siphon conventions and concerts from the Garden.

    The Jets have targeted 2009 for moving into the new stadium, which is also tied into Manhattan's bid to be the host for the 2012 Summer Olympics.

    Aiello said of moving the draft, "I don't know what our decision would have been in the absence of the dispute."

    The league is considering many sites for the two-day draft, which begins on April 23, including the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center, which is adjacent to the site of the proposed stadium.

    In December, the Javits Center received the State Legislature's approval to expand. Last month, the City Council approved comprehensive rezoning of the 42-block neighborhood where the stadium would be built.

    Aiello said the league was also looking at Philadelphia, the city which held the first N.F.L. draft in 1936 and whose team, the Eagles, have advanced to four consecutive National Football Conference title games and last Sunday's Super Bowl.

    "One of the attractive features about Philadelphia is that this is our 70th draft coming up and that is where the first one was held, so there is an interesting historical angle," Aiello said. "Since it is close to New York, logistically, it wouldn't be too burdensome."

    Although the draft has been held in New York since 1965, several East Coast cities have been considered as future sites, including Boston and Washington.

    "Even if it is in New York, we would like to be able to accommodate more fans," Aiello said. "ESPN makes it a great television event, but we have more demand than seats, and we have never been able to use the big Garden because of basketball playoffs or hockey playoffs or the circus."




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