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    Are you offended? People need to lighten up!


    http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/middlesex/in...35590261040.xml

    Rutgers bans some sandwich names
    Wednesday, February 16, 2005

    BY ROSA CIRIANNI
    Star-Ledger Staff

    The "grease trucks" at Rutgers University in New Brunswick are famous for offering a variety of artery-clogging sandwiches, like the gut-busting "Fat Blunt" made with cheese steak, egg, pork roll, mozzarella sticks, French fries and mayonnaise.

    But it's not the unhealthy fare that has some people bellyaching.

    The names of certain "fat" sandwiches, as they are appropriately called, have been deemed offensive by the university, which leases the parking area to the grease trucks.

    After receiving complaints from students, the university last week ordered the truck owners to cover up the names of the offending sandwiches.

    "Licensed vendors must agree to abide by various regulations intended to best serve the Rutgers community, as well as the public," Rutgers spokeswoman Sandra Lanman said in a statement. "Their contractual obligations include providing copies of posted menu items; showing respect to all students, faculty and staff; and operating in a professional, courteous manner."

    Sam Algar, owner of Mr. C's, said he received a letter directing him to change the names. He and the owners of the other two food trucks parked in a university parking lot on College Avenue promptly covered them up with silver duct tape.

    "It's not like it's a bad thing. I'm not trying to discriminate or anything," Algar said. "It's extraordinary. It's funny. People drive from all over the place, from Philly, to say give me the 'Fat B*tch'."

    Not everyone sees the humor.

    Steven Goldstein, chairman of Garden State Equality, a statewide gay and lesbian political organization, said he finds the sandwich names disgusting, grotesque and offensive.

    "What's going on here is not just giving harmless names to sandwiches. This is how hate crimes begin," Goldstein said. "This is serious stuff. I'm alarmed."

    Others, however, see it as the latest example of political correctness gone awry.

    David French, president of the nonprofit Philadelphia-based Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, said while it may be the university's prerogative to ask the owners to change their menus, it raises some constitutional concerns.

    "It strikes me as silly and sort of systematic," French said. "It's kind of a piece of this larger problem that if someone is offended, colleges are awfully quick to pull the trigger."

    Amy Bigge, who graduated from Rutgers in 1999 and who now works as a benefits specialist in Somerset, said she remembers when it was just the Fat Moon or the Fat Cat sandwiches. When the 30-year-old heard about the other names during lunch Monday, she said she agreed with the university's position.

    Some students at the RU Hungry? grease truck said university officials and their classmates are being too sensitive, while others said they are glad the names will be dropped.

    "It's just a sandwich," said Jakora Holman, 19, a student from Asbury Park who lives on the College Avenue campus. "No one thinks about it. How can anyone be insulted when (people) are ordering a sandwich?"

    RU Hungry? owner Hesham Habib said students love the names, which are uniform between the trucks and a few area restaurants such as King's Italian Restaurant & Pizzeria of New Brunswick and R.U. Grill & Pizza, both on Easton Avenue.

    "If you put it on the menu or you don't put it on the menu, people know and they keep ordering them," Habib said.

    The list of fat-named sandwiches has grown over the years and so have their popularity. Maxim magazine named the "Fat Darrell" from R.U. Grill & Pizza on Easton Avenue in New Brunswick, the country's No. 1 sandwich in its August 2004 issue.

    Joseph Elghoul, manager for R.U. Grill & Pizza, has "Phat Specials" printed on its menu. They include a few that the university asked the grease trucks to cover up and change.

    "I don't see any offensive names," said Elghoul of East Brunswick. "It's the people that come here and name the sandwiches after themselves."

    The university has not contacted any of the city businesses about their use of the sandwich names.

    "I don't think they should be covering it up. I don't think that has an effect on anything. It's just a form of expression," said Craig Matis, 20, a commuter from Flemington.

    Graduate student Nichole Shippen disagreed.

    "I absolutely agree with taking the names off," said Shippen, 27. "If it said anything about race, it would be taken off automatically. It's on university property; I feel like it should have to go by the same standards."

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    Originally posted by Tennessee_Jet@Feb 16 2005, 12:06 PM
    It's on university property; I feel like it should have to go by the same standards."
    this is the key factor - i agree that PC has run amuck but the school has a legal liability to worry about - they just can't serve "fat *****" sandwiches and expect that no one is going to be offended. :lol:

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    Originally posted by bitonti+Feb 16 2005, 01:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bitonti &#064; Feb 16 2005, 01:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tennessee_Jet@Feb 16 2005, 12:06 PM
    It&#39;s on university property; I feel like it should have to go by the same standards."
    this is the key factor - i agree that PC has run amuck but the school has a legal liability to worry about - they just can&#39;t serve "fat *****" sandwiches and expect that no one is going to be offended. :lol: [/b][/quote]
    I have been known to use that term with the Mrs. on occasions. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Who knows if they&#39;re really offended: its a way to get your name in the paper and your 15 minutes of fame. Frickin lamers. :[img]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' />

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    I remember the grease trucks at RU...
    If someone wants to eat Fat Darrell that&#39;s their buisness...sheesh&#33;

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    :lol: you are a funny bastard jetman :lol:

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    i happen to like the fat ***** as well, the sandwich of course

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    Originally posted by verdegirl@Feb 16 2005, 12:12 PM
    I remember the grease trucks at RU...
    If someone wants to eat Fat Darrell that&#39;s their buisness...sheesh&#33;
    This guy&#39;s sandwich truck is pretty famous they had this sandwich on The Food Network I think with Al Roker&#39;s show.
    Since Rutgers is supported by the State I do not want to see any lawsuits - and my Jersey taxes to support it&#33; Change the names

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    I saw a special on the food network where that food truck was featured. They also featured the place that make the Roethis-berger and another place that makes crazy good cheese steaks in Philly.

    All looked good to me. Gotta love a sandwich that has Mozzarella sticks and frenc fries on it.

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    LOL just beat me, Frank.

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    Originally posted by Tennessee_Jet@Feb 16 2005, 12:06 PM
    "What&#39;s going on here is not just giving harmless names to sandwiches. This is how hate crimes begin," Goldstein said. "This is serious stuff. I&#39;m alarmed."
    He&#39;s absolutely right. I just beat the piss out of a tubby after eating the fat blunt.

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    Originally posted by faba+Feb 16 2005, 12:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (faba @ Feb 16 2005, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-verdegirl@Feb 16 2005, 12:12 PM
    I remember the grease trucks at RU...
    If someone wants to eat Fat Darrell that&#39;s their buisness...sheesh&#33;
    This guy&#39;s sandwich truck is pretty famous they had this sandwich on The Food Network I think with Al Roker&#39;s show.
    Since Rutgers is supported by the State I do not want to see any lawsuits - and my Jersey taxes to support it&#33; Change the names [/b][/quote]
    Faba, I&#39;m sure the owner will do what he needs to in order to avoid a lawsuit. If the sandwiches are that famous, people will order them by their "fat" names regardless of if they get changed.
    I can proudly say that I&#39;ve NEVER eaten from the grease trucks at RU&#33; :lol:

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    Originally posted by THE_SOOTHSAYER@Feb 16 2005, 01:23 PM
    I saw a special on the food network where that food truck was featured. They also featured the place that make the Roethis-berger and another place that makes crazy good cheese steaks in Philly.

    All looked good to me. Gotta love a sandwich that has Mozzarella sticks and frenc fries on it.
    YUMMMM&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; CHOLESTEROL&#33;&#33;&#33; Gee, I wonder if there is a study of RU students needing bypass surgery later in life...

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    Originally posted by THE_SOOTHSAYER@Feb 16 2005, 12:23 PM
    LOL just beat me, Frank.
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    The Sandwich looked good to me-you will die happy from clogged arteries&#33;

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    Originally posted by faba@Feb 16 2005, 12:30 PM
    The Sandwich looked good to me-you will die happy from clogged arteries&#33;
    It actually looked like it fits right into the average college student&#39;s diet. At least it was back when I went. LOL

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    you can eat anything when you&#39;re 20... the good old days...

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    *sigh* The Olde Queens Campus was never the same after Greasy Tony&#39;s abandoned Easton Ave. I&#39;m happy to report that Stuff Yer Face lives on, though.

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    Originally posted by Tennessee_Jet@Feb 16 2005, 12:06 PM
    Steven Goldstein, chairman of Garden State Equality, a statewide gay and lesbian political organization, said he finds the sandwich names disgusting, grotesque and offensive.

    "What&#39;s going on here is not just giving harmless names to sandwiches. This is how hate crimes begin," Goldstein said. "This is serious stuff. I&#39;m alarmed."
    This is a gay-rights issue?

    It seems that at the very least that these &#39;gay&#39; people are anything but gay.

    But we certainly don&#39;t want them to be &#39;alarmed&#39; :lol:

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    Originally posted by Piper+Feb 16 2005, 01:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Piper @ Feb 16 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tennessee_Jet@Feb 16 2005, 12:06 PM
    Steven Goldstein, chairman of Garden State Equality, a statewide gay and lesbian political organization, said he finds the sandwich names disgusting, grotesque and offensive.

    "What&#39;s going on here is not just giving harmless names to sandwiches. This is how hate crimes begin," Goldstein said. "This is serious stuff. I&#39;m alarmed."
    This is a gay-rights issue?

    It seems that at the very least that these &#39;gay&#39; people are anything but gay.

    But we certainly don&#39;t want them to be &#39;alarmed&#39; :lol: [/b][/quote]
    Discontinuing the use of the words "manhole" or "rump wrangler" would be more appropriate gay issues.

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    the Fat Darryl is the best "hangover" remedy ever&#33;

    :lol:

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