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    Training Camp Battles for Starting Jobs

    Ben Graham vs. Micah Knorr: I think it's Graham's job to lose and Knorr is just there for competition, Graham should have every chance to win the job, let's hope he does. Prediction: Graham wins

    Reggie Tongue vs. John McGraw: Tongue shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the starting line-up, he sucks, in fact I think he should be cut outright if it were not for Washington's and Maddox's inexperience behind him. It's put up or shut up time for McGraw, him and Coleman would be a nasty duo if he could just stay on the field, however,:Prediction: McGraw gets hurt in Pre-Season, and Washington Wally Pipps McGraw and beats out Tongue

    Donnie Abraham vs. Justin Miller vs. Derrick Strait: Why is Donnie a Herm favorite, just because he drafted him and is a good citizen, that's so stupid, he sucks as well now. I'd like to see Strait start, even though he didn't play much last year, he's still more polished than Miller, I don't buy the idea that Strait is nothing more than a nickle. Screw Donnie. Younger and faster. Prediction:Abraham

    Victor Hobson vs. Mark Brown: No idea who wins this one, both are solid but nothing spectular, though it would be nice if Hobson began playing like a 2nd round pick even though he's still pretty good; if I had my way, I'd sign Boulware to complete a SUPER Front 7 instead of signing Law or Shelton, but that probably won't happen. [B]Prediction: Slight Edge to Hobson
    Last edited by jetsfanmack; 05-22-2005 at 09:54 PM.

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    if mcGlass gets hurt again in camp look for washington/coleman to start openning day. if mcGlass stays healthy tongue will be cut during training camp if not sooner.

    strait and barret at corner. strait plays nickel and miller/donnie abe play corner in that package.

    hobson - b/f getting hurt he was playing pretty well and was actually an effective blitzer.

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    Hobson was in a bit of a slump before he got hurt. As a result his comeback to serious playing time was delayed. Mark Brown has shown flashes of brilliance in camp and preseason games, but although he did a solid job as a starter, there was nothing spectacular. I became a big fan of his a couple years back when I witnessed his run-stuffing abilities. Hobson finally got his feet back late in the season and I give him a slight nod in what should be the best battle at Hofstra.

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    jetsfanmack Ben Graham vs. Micah Knorr: I think it's Graham's job to lose and Knorr is just there for competition, Graham should have every chance to win the job, let's hope he does. Prediction: Graham wins

    Reggie Tongue vs. John McGraw: Tongue shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the starting line-up, he sucks, in fact I think he should be cut outright if it were not for Washington's and Maddox's inexperience behind him. It's put up or shut up time for McGraw, him and Coleman would be a nasty duo if he could just stay on the field, however,rediction: McGraw gets hurt in Pre-Season, and Washington Wally Pipps McGraw and beats out Tongue

    Donnie Abraham vs. Justin Miller vs. Derrick Strait: Why is Donnie a Herm favorite, just because he drafted him and is a good citizen, that's so stupid, he sucks as well now. I'd like to see Strait start, even though he didn't play much last year, he's still more polished than Miller, I don't buy the idea that Strait is nothing more than a nickle. Screw Donnie. Younger and faster. Prediction:Abraham

    Victor Hobson vs. Mark Brown: No idea who wins this one, both are solid but nothing spectular, though it would be nice if Hobson began playing like a 2nd round pick even though he's still pretty good; if I had my way, I'd sign Boulware to complete a SUPER Front 7 instead of signing Law or Shelton, but that probably won't happen. Prediction: [B]Slight Edge to Hobson
    1. I agree with Graham, but Knorr isnt that bad. But it s Grahams to lose.

    2. Tongue isnt that bad, he could tackle and that is an underrated quality. But remember this is a very open positon There is four that can compete. Washington, Rhodes, McGraw, and Tongue to compete for it. Remember the Jets are one of those teams that will play rookies and they have played well so them. But Rhodes, I think will get playing time as a backup this year. WAshington I hope shows what he can do wins it. But, I think McGraw should have it, unless he gets hurt again.

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    Today 08:39 PM
    jetsfanmack Ben Graham vs. Micah Knorr: I think it's Graham's job to lose and Knorr is just there for competition, Graham should have every chance to win the job, let's hope he does. Prediction: Graham wins

    Reggie Tongue vs. John McGraw: Tongue shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the starting line-up, he sucks, in fact I think he should be cut outright if it were not for Washington's and Maddox's inexperience behind him. It's put up or shut up time for McGraw, him and Coleman would be a nasty duo if he could just stay on the field, however,rediction: McGraw gets hurt in Pre-Season, and Washington Wally Pipps McGraw and beats out Tongue

    Donnie Abraham vs. Justin Miller vs. Derrick Strait: Why is Donnie a Herm favorite, just because he drafted him and is a good citizen, that's so stupid, he sucks as well now. I'd like to see Strait start, even though he didn't play much last year, he's still more polished than Miller, I don't buy the idea that Strait is nothing more than a nickle. Screw Donnie. Younger and faster. Prediction:Abraham

    Victor Hobson vs. Mark Brown: No idea who wins this one, both are solid but nothing spectular, though it would be nice if Hobson began playing like a 2nd round pick even though he's still pretty good; if I had my way, I'd sign Boulware to complete a SUPER Front 7 instead of signing Law or Shelton, but that probably won't happen. Prediction: [B]Slight Edge to Hobson

    3. How could you forget all about Mickens?? He is the perfect fit for this season until Miller gets a year under his belt. I like Strait too but I think he is a good nickle. Mickens will start and Abe be the dime but rotate in often because he is one of Herms guys.

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    I don't know I'm thinking Tongue is a June 1st-er.McGraw if he wasn't a 2nd round pick he'd be gone too.Derek Pagel-big disappointment and I say he goes alomng with reggie in favor of the new guys we just drafted

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    This is what i hope
    Graham>Knorr
    McGraw> Tongue
    Abraham> Strait> Miller (still very young players)
    Hobson=Brown, perfect for each other

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    Barry Gardener is my choice In the Hobson/ Brown competition

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    STARTING LINEUP BY MID-SEASON, BARRING INJURIES

    QB Chad Pennington
    RB Martin/Blaylock
    FB Jerald Sowell
    TE Baker/Jolley
    WR Lav Coles
    WR Justin Macareins
    WR Jerricho Cotchery {Harry Williams for designed deep balls}
    LT Jason Fabini {unless we sign Shelton}
    LG Pete Kendall
    C Kevin Mawae
    RG Brandon Moore
    RT Adrian Jones
    ==
    DE John Abraham
    DT Sione Pouha
    DT DeWayne Robertson
    DE Shaun Ellis
    WLB Eric Barton
    MLB Jon Vilma
    SLB Mark Brown {unless we sign Peter Boulware}
    CB David Barrett
    S Erik Coleman
    S Jon McGraw
    CB Justin Miller {unless we sign Ty Law}
    NB Derrick Strait
    ==
    PK Mike Nugent
    P AUSSIE GUY
    RM Justin Miller



    WHEN WE GO TO THE 3-4
    ====================
    DE DeWayne Robertson
    NT Sione Pouha
    DE Shaun Ellis
    OLB John Abraham
    ILB Jon Vilma
    ILB Victor Hobson
    OLB Eric Barton

    In the unlikely event we should sign Boulware ...

    OLB John Abraham
    ILB Jon Vilma
    ILB Eric Barton
    OLB Peter Boulware

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Jets & Ham
    STARTING LINEUP BY MID-SEASON, BARRING INJURIES

    QB Chad Pennington
    RB Martin/Blaylock
    FB Jerald Sowell
    TE Baker/Jolley
    WR Lav Coles
    WR Justin Macareins
    WR Jerricho Cotchery {Harry Williams for designed deep balls}
    LT Jason Fabini {unless we sign Shelton}
    LG Pete Kendall
    C Kevin Mawae
    RG Brandon Moore
    RT Adrian Jones
    ==
    DE John Abraham
    DT Sione Pouha
    DT DeWayne Robertson
    DE Shaun Ellis
    WLB Eric Barton
    MLB Jon Vilma
    SLB Mark Brown {unless we sign Peter Boulware}
    CB David Barrett
    S Erik Coleman
    S Jon McGraw
    CB Justin Miller {unless we sign Ty Law}
    NB Derrick Strait
    ==
    PK Mike Nugent
    P AUSSIE GUY
    RM Justin Miller



    WHEN WE GO TO THE 3-4
    ====================
    DE DeWayne Robertson
    NT Sione Pouha
    DE Shaun Ellis
    OLB John Abraham
    ILB Jon Vilma
    ILB Victor Hobson
    OLB Eric Barton

    In the unlikely event we should sign Boulware ...

    OLB John Abraham
    ILB Jon Vilma
    ILB Eric Barton
    OLB Peter Boulware
    With that line up Jet Fans should be smiling deep into January!!!!!

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    I'm not positive, but isn't Reggie Tongue signed to the veteran minimum? It would be stupid to cut him for cap reasons.

    Speaking of which, I wish there was a site that has player contracts. I know the NFL kinda tries to hide them, but it is annoying, not being positive about these sort of things and having no way to check.

    I doubt we cut Reggie Tongue. I think our safety squad will consist of Coleman and McGraw starting, with Tongue, Rhodes, and Maddux backing up. If McGraw gets hurt, he is gone, and Washington will probably be added instead. If we end up holding 4 safeties instead of five, Maddux will probably leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatmoblin

    I'm not positive, but isn't Reggie Tongue signed to the veteran minimum? It would be stupid to cut him for cap reasons.

    Speaking of which, I wish there was a site that has player contracts. I know the NFL kinda tries to hide them, but it is annoying, not being positive about these sort of things and having no way to check.

    I doubt we cut Reggie Tongue. I think our safety squad will consist of Coleman and McGraw starting, with Tongue, Rhodes, and Maddux backing up. If McGraw gets hurt, he is gone, and Washington will probably be added instead. If we end up holding 4 safeties instead of five, Maddux will probably leave.
    TGM, its not about money ... not about the contract ... you simply don't cut a promising young player to squeeze one last drop of juice out of an old lemon

    We're too stacked at S ... too many promising youngsters vying for roster spots at that position ... IMO we do not have the luxury of keeping Reggie Tongue, not even if we keep 5

    Erik Coleman
    Jon McGraw
    Kerry Rhodes
    Andre Maddox
    Rashad Washington or Oliver Celestin

    Even in the highly unlikely event we decide to carry six safeties, I would keep the last two I listed directly above ahead of Reggie Tongue
    Last edited by Green Jets & Ham; 05-23-2005 at 04:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Jets & Ham
    TGM, its not about money ... not about the contract ... you simply don't cut a promising young player to squeeze one last drop of juice out of an old lemon
    I understand where you are coming from, but at this point, when we are becoming serious superbowl contendors, doesn't it make sense to do everything we can to make the team better?

    We'll see how it plays out, but you are probably right...

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    Reggie Tongue must go. There's just no room for him. To keep a marginal guy like him around at the expense of a young guy is a mistake.

    Pagel and Tongue should get the axe for starters.

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    Those will be some interesting competitions, but my favorite is always the WR's. I enjoy it when the hopefuls always look for that one spectacular catch that sends the crowd ooohing & ahhhhing at camp. It's pretty much a lock this season with Coles, Chrebet & McCareins, but the 4th spot looks like it's between Jonathan Carter & Jerricho Cotchery and my money's on Carter.

    Another interesting spot to watch is Center. Now we all know that #68 is a 6 time pro bowler and yes Kevin, we still love you, but we also know that your knees won't hold out forever big guy. Possible back up/replacements are Jonathan Goodwin, Brandon Moore, Jason Nerys or Knish Yovanovitz, and I like Jason Nerys for this spot, but it might be Moore since we just signed him to a fat long term contract and he has expressed interest in being Mawae's heir apparent. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limolady

    Another interesting spot to watch is Center. Now we all know that #68 is a 6 time pro bowler and yes Kevin, we still love you, but we also know that your knees won't hold out forever big guy. Possible back up/replacements are Jonathan Goodwin, Brandon Moore, Jason Nerys or Knish Yovanovitz, and I like Jason Nerys for this spot, but it might be Moore since we just signed him to a fat long term contract and he has expressed interest in being Mawae's heir apparent. We shall see.

    I was always under the impression that Goodwin was the backup center (as well as guard) with Kendall being able to snap the ball as well. I didn't realize that Moore had visions of playing center as well. Glad to hear that. The more versatile your players are, the better. Now, if Goodwin could learn how to play tackle as well, it would go a long way to solidifying our depth on the line.

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    I have a feeling that the starting DT alongside Robertson will be a good fight, I know there will be a rotation, but the starter's spot is probably up for grabs.

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    Goodwin is in the mix, but I don't think he's written in stone. As for Pete Kendall, I love this player, but he too is "getting up there" in NFL years and I would like to see someone younger, bigger and more long term like Brandon Moore or Jason Nerys for our team anchor. It's not like Mawae is hanging up his cleats anytime soon that I know of, but if we should go all the way this season retiring with a SB ring is one of Kevin's aspirations and he's got a huge set of knee pads that will need to be filled with that case scenario.





    Quote Originally Posted by crasherino
    I was always under the impression that Goodwin was the backup center (as well as guard) with Kendall being able to snap the ball as well. I didn't realize that Moore had visions of playing center as well. Glad to hear that. The more versatile your players are, the better. Now, if Goodwin could learn how to play tackle as well, it would go a long way to solidifying our depth on the line.

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    Hey jet fans, rookie member here!

    I think Graham is a more complete athlete than Knorr, and although Knor is a decent punter, Graham is very competitive that reached stardom in the AFL, therefore will try to reach the highest level in the NFL.

    Other than Coleman, I don't see anyone being a definite in the other safety spots. McGraw is too prone to injuries for someone who is supposed to big a physical player. Unlike someone else here, I don't believe Tongue can tackle all that well. I honestly hope that Donnie Henderson can work some of his magic in Rhodes and Maddox as he did with Vima, and Coleman and get them to starting level right away.

    I respectfully disagree with some of the other members about the level of the
    WR corps. I think McCareins was a great adittion, as it was Coles (still sad that Moss left). I believe that nowadays most rookie WRs struggle in their first season. Having said that I think that Cotchery has a pretty good chance to make an important impact in the offense. Chrebet seems to have found a second wing from what I read in most reports, so that is great.

    I think that although D. Abraham is not as young, and fast as we'd like to, it's always to have a vet in the group for experience and leadership. However, based on talent, I'd like to see Strait and Miller in each corner.

    I still have to think about the other positions that some people have mentioned.

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    By midseason Donnie is going to find himself on the bench. I really think Strait is going to win that job outright. McGraw will probably start the season. Tongue will be cut. By week 7 someone else will be starting instead of McGraw. And Graham will definitely be the punter.

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