Pardon a new thread for this, but I did not want to muck up Patsfanken's thread with a non-football comment. My only point here is that thread is the best thread with football responses I've heard here in awhile. It didn't immediately turn to bashing, and clearly stated questions, arguments and rebuttals in logical (or not) football opinions.

Anyways, here's to more threads like this...and the season starting! Cheers!