Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Jets v Chiefs ESPN scouting report

  1. #1
    All League
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    2,566

    Jets v Chiefs ESPN scouting report

    Why To Watch
    For the Chiefs, the offseason was all about upgrading a defense that has ranked among the league's worst the last two seasons and finished next-to-last overall last season. Coordinator Gunther Cunningham couldn't make the necessary upgrades without improved personnel last season, which spawned the acquisitions of OLB Kendrell Bell, DC Patrick Surtain and SS Sammy Knight. The should-be improved unit will be put to the test against a balanced Jets' attack led by RB Curtis Martin, a healthy QB Chad Pennington and the return of WR Laveranues Coles.
    The Chiefs did nothing to upgrade their offense, but RB Priest Holmes, QB Trent Green, TE Tony Gonzalez and WR Eddie Kennison should continue to play starring roles in a balanced and explosive attack. This unit also will be put to the test right away against a Jets defense that should only be improved thanks to the addition of DC Ty Law.


    When the Jets have the ball
    Rushing: The Jets will look to take more vertical shots down the field with Mike Heimerdinger as the new offensive coordinator, but the one thing that will not change is the run-first focus.

    RB Martin is coming off a career-year in 2004, when he rushed for a league-high 1,697 yards on 371 carries. He ran harder last season, while also showing more burst and explosiveness, than he had in the previous three seasons. The Chiefs' run defense projects to be better than the one that surrendered 114.6 yards per game last season, but the Jets will make Kansas City prove it.

    The Chiefs have the same personnel along their front four, with DTs Ryan Sims and Lionel Dalton teaming with DEs Jared Allen and Eric Hicks. However, they have greater depth at both spots thanks to the addition of DE Carlos Hall, as well as the maturation of 2004 second-round pick DT Junior Siavii. The hope is that a larger "wave" will result in fresher and more productive personnel.

    Furthermore, the linebacker corps projects to be much more active and physical than a year ago, as youngsters Keyaron Fox (LOLB) and Kawika Mitchell (MLB) team up with newcomer Kendrell Bell (ROLB). Bell is a proven commodity when healthy, and Fox has shown flashes of brilliance during the preseason.

    While most of the Jets offensive unit returns intact, there has to be some concern about the losses of ROT Kareem McKenzie (Giants) and TE Anthony Becht (Bucs). Adrian Jones is an athletic replacement at right tackle, but he is much smaller and far less experienced. While the Jets get a potential upgrade in terms of pass-catching at tight end, neither Chris Baker nor Doug Jolley is the blocker Becht was. Against a beefed up, deeper and improved Chiefs run defense, this matchup will serve as a litmus test for what was one of the premier running attacks in 2004.

    Passing: Pennington does his best work off of play-action, because he does an outstanding job of selling play-fakes and freezing linebackers and safeties. The Jets do not have the personnel to spread things out and spray the ball around the field, but they can be very effective throwing the ball as a complement to the running attack.

    Pennington is reunited with his favorite target in WR Coles, and Heimerdinger certainly will look to get this pitch-and-catch combo off to a quick start, especially because of the mismatch Coles will have against Chiefs RDC Dexter McCleon. If the Chiefs leave McCleon on an island, look for Pennington to work his magic off the play-action. Pennington doesn't have the arm strength to consistently exploit this matchup vertically, but he has good timing and will find ways to get the explosive Coles the ball with room to run after the catch once he gains separation from McCleon.

    The Chiefs should be improved in terms of their overall pass defense thanks to the additions of Surtain (LDC) and Knight (SS). Knight should be able to hold up against TEs Jolley or Baker when asked to match up one-on-one. Surtain also will give Cunningham some flexibility because of his ability to keep WR Justin McCareins in check on an island. However, the Chiefs must get more pressure from their interior than they got a year ago, and they also need LBs Mitchell and Fox to play with discipline, as Pennington will exploit the youngsters if they get caught peeking in the backfield.

    When the Chiefs have the ball
    Rushing: The skill players garner most of the attention on the Chiefs' offense, but the success of this unit all starts up front with arguably the league's premier offensive line.

    In what promises to be one of the best trench matchups of Week 1, the Chiefs' front-five will look to keep the Jets hybrid 3-4/4-3 front in check. The Jets will miss the presence of NT Jason Ferguson (Cowboys), but they still are loaded with talent in their front-seven.

    John Abraham returns as the hybrid DE/OLB on the right side, but he will split time with the emerging Bryan Thomas. When the team is in its base 4-3 alignment on first and second downs, don't be surprised to see Thomas starting at the RDE position opposite LDE Shaun Ellis. That gives the Jets their biggest personnel in order to stop the run, and it also allows Abraham to stay fresh as a pass rusher on third downs and later in the game.

    The most important matchup will come in the middle, where NTs James Reed and Lance Legree will rotate versus OC Casey Wiegmann. As one of the toughest and most consistent centers in the league, Wiegmann should be able to handle the one-two punch without double-team help. If that's the case, it will free up LOG Brian Waters to help pick up stunts and blitzes. At times we also could see Waters shift over after the snap and work against the NT, which would free up Wiegmann to provide double-team help against standout DT Dewayne Robertson.

    If the Chiefs' front-five can handle the Jets defensive front-four consistently, RBs Holmes and Larry Johnson should have running room, because FB Tony Richardson will do a good job of reaching the second-level and getting a body on MLB Jonathan Vilma.

    Passing: The Chiefs' offense matches up a lot better on the ground than it does in the air in this game. There is a good deal of diversity in the Chiefs' passing attack thanks to the versatility of Holmes and Gonzalez.

    However, the Chiefs do not possess good playmaking potential at the wide receiver position. With Johnnie Morton gone, Eddie Kennison is really the Chiefs' only reliable target at wide receiver, and he is slowing with age. There also is very little proven talent outside of Kennison, as second-year pro Sammie Parker moves into the No. 2 WR spot, and Dante Hall is decent, at best, as the No. 3 WR.

    The Jets should see the benefits of signing CB Law immediately, as his ability to lock up one-on-one versus Kennison will free up coordinator Donnie Henderson to be much more aggressive with his schemes. For starters, Henderson will frequently be able to cheat SS Oliver Celestin up into the box as an extra run supporter.

    Furthermore, on obvious passing downs, Henderson will have more personnel freed up to blitz, or he can play more cover-2 looks with safeties Celestin and Erik Coleman in order to better protect the middle of the field against Gonzalez. If Abraham and Ellis can provide a consistent rush off the perimeter, and if Vilma can hold up one-on-one against Holmes out of the backfield, Green could be in for an unusually frustrating afternoon in the opener.

  2. #2
    Hall Of Fame
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Location
    East Coast of the United States - subject to change on short notice
    Posts
    20,538
    Pretty interesting analysis. I can't wait to watch this game. I respect KC's offense and their O-Line but I think the Jets will get it done this Sunday and get the win. Defense wins games (and championships.)
    Last edited by ARodFLKeysJetsFan; 09-06-2005 at 06:14 PM.

  3. #3
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Board Moderator

    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    27,261
    Kazrell -- Excellent breakdown, thanks for sharing it.

    Couple things to add: Rhodes is starting at safety opposite Coleman -- he's going to have his hands full with Tony Gonzalez. Anyone think Gonzo's licking his chops thinking about a rookie covering him? I do. We need to contain him in the RZ. We're talking about arguably the best pass-catching tight-end in league history. I'd say if we hold him to a single TD (or better yet, zero), that'd have to be considered a success.

    I'm also not sold on their "improved" defense. We will run the ball on them, I'm sure of that. And that should only get better in the 2nd half as we wear them down. The other benefit is that it keeps their offense off the field if we can sustain long clock-eating drives. The Chiefs average 70-80 plays a game -- we need to try to reduce that number.

    Pennington is reunited with his favorite target in WR Coles, and Heimerdinger certainly will look to get this pitch-and-catch combo off to a quick start, especially because of the mismatch Coles will have against Chiefs RDC Dexter McCleon.
    You don't think they'll put Surtain on Coles? I won't be complaining if they put McCleon on Coles -- I love that matchup.

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    0
    I like it. Its pretty accurate but it did not take in a couple of factors.

    1) the ability of Coleman to cover TE 1 on 1.
    2) Kerry Rhodes is a ball hawk.
    3) the off-season moves for KC are questionable at best, Bell injuries, Surtain is great but on the down slide and can be of beat up at the line by both McCariens and Coles, and Knight is average.
    4) Larry Johnson taking carries from Preist.
    5) Our Center Kevin Mawae and our lead blocker Sowell who got robbed of a pro-bowl bid last yr.
    6) Trent Green and his ailments



    It is going to be a great game. I think the one thing that people forget about the jets is that we are great at making teams play our style of football a slow grinding, feild position, move the chains and exploit weaknesses of the opponent type of game. I dont think the Chiefs can handle that. We are great at preparing for teams, we win with the help of Blaylock who knows the system and will help us prepare. Him and C-Mart are going to run for days by the help of Mawae and Sowell, then the next thing you know Chad will get them to bite on play action and hit his boy for a big gain, Coles will definetly have a TD.

  5. #5
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    1,413
    The way I see it is that, we will probably have to score three touch downs.

  6. #6
    Hall Of Fame
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Location
    East Coast of the United States - subject to change on short notice
    Posts
    20,538
    One statement that I absolutely don't agree with is this:

    The Jets do not have the personnel to spread things out and spray the ball around the field

  7. #7
    All League
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Chicago (Via Harlem, Via Madison WI)
    Posts
    2,571
    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
    Kazrell -- Excellent breakdown, thanks for sharing it.

    Couple things to add: Rhodes is starting at safety opposite Coleman -- he's going to have his hands full with Tony Gonzalez. Anyone think Gonzo's licking his chops thinking about a rookie covering him? I do. We need to contain him in the RZ. We're talking about arguably the best pass-catching tight-end in league history. I'd say if we hold him to a single TD (or better yet, zero), that'd have to be considered a success.

    I'm also not sold on their "improved" defense. We will run the ball on them, I'm sure of that. And that should only get better in the 2nd half as we wear them down. The other benefit is that it keeps their offense off the field if we can sustain long clock-eating drives. The Chiefs average 70-80 plays a game -- we need to try to reduce that number.



    You don't think they'll put Surtain on Coles? I won't be complaining if they put McCleon on Coles -- I love that matchup.
    Rhodes won't be alone in covering Gonzo....Expect to see a lot of Hobson and Brown covering him underneath. Those two had as much to do with the shutting down of Antonio Gates as Jon Mcgraw did.

  8. #8
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Board Moderator

    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    27,261
    Quote Originally Posted by DELAWANAJET
    The way I see it is that, we will probably have to score three touch downs.
    I agree.

  9. #9
    Kaz...good report , but let me make one correction of a ridiculous typo you have. There is absolutely no concern about the loss of TE Anthony Becht.Whoever gave you input that there was concern is an idiot. we are a better team without him.We can always put in an OL at TE on running plays when we need to, because thats all Becht was anyway! He couldnt catch anything. He couldnt catch a cold to save his life!When you take away a liability from a team , you IMPROVE it. The same can be said of Paul Hackett. By getting rid of him, we pick up 2 wins easily.

  10. #10
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    1,496
    Quote Originally Posted by Baddniss
    Kaz...good report , but let me make one correction of a ridiculous typo you have. There is absolutely no concern about the loss of TE Anthony Becht.Whoever gave you input that there was concern is an idiot. we are a better team without him.We can always put in an OL at TE on running plays when we need to, because thats all Becht was anyway! He couldnt catch anything. He couldnt catch a cold to save his life!When you take away a liability from a team , you IMPROVE it. The same can be said of Paul Hackett. By getting rid of him, we pick up 2 wins easily.
    Yea, and that dumb defense will have NO clue what kind of play we might run....

  11. #11
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    17,784
    Why are so many misinformed about Jones?

    Everybody keeps saying Jones is "much smaller" than McKenzie. He is not as small as so many have mislabeled him.

    He is 315 now, he looks much bigger this year, than he did last year, and from some reports, he is much stronger than advertised.

    What we lose is McKenzie's experience, from an ability standpoint, Jones may eventually be an upgrade.

  12. #12
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Board Moderator

    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    27,261
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19
    Why are so many misinformed about Jones?

    Everybody keeps saying Jones is "much smaller" than McKenzie. He is not as small as so many have mislabeled him.

    He is 315 now, he looks much bigger this year, than he did last year, and from some reports, he is much stronger than advertised.

    What we lose is McKenzie's experience, from an ability standpoint, Jones may eventually be an upgrade.
    From the reports I've read and the pre-season games I've watched, what Jones might lack in size (and yes, I've read he's 315lbs as well), he'll make up for with his athleticism. I expect him to come on strong as the season progresses and after he gets some starts under his belt.

  13. #13
    Rookie
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    936
    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
    Kazrell -- Excellent breakdown, thanks for sharing it.

    Couple things to add: Rhodes is starting at safety opposite Coleman -- he's going to have his hands full with Tony Gonzalez. Anyone think Gonzo's licking his chops thinking about a rookie covering him? I do. We need to contain him in the RZ. We're talking about arguably the best pass-catching tight-end in league history. I'd say if we hold him to a single TD (or better yet, zero), that'd have to be considered a success.



    It isn't so much holding Gonzalez with TD catches. He had 7 last year if I remember correctly. It is containing his solid yardage catches.

    Let's face it, the Chiefs have Priest Holmes in their backfield. They don't really have tough issues when getting into the endzone. The biggest point is preventing them from getting near the goaline too much.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Follow Us